WTF solidworks
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WTF solidworks
Ok, so I'm working on my suspension design and I'm stuggling with this stupid weldment thing. I made a rear frame for my design and used the frame designers dimension to maintain his specs. I used his suspension mounting bar.
My problem, the distance between the 2 mating circular cut out for the suspension mount and the frame distance are one and the same. I can't get it to concentrically mate properly. The first will mate just fine, the second will tell me it's off by whatever distance the model is off. If I move it closer, the failure distance gets close. This leads me to beleive the dimension is right and that the program doesn't recognize what I want to mate. It says the concentric mate will over define the part, but I only have 2 degrees of freedom mate in a 3d model. wtf?
Any solidworks expert can help me out? It's a huge pain in the *** when **** like this happens and I need help ASAP.
My problem, the distance between the 2 mating circular cut out for the suspension mount and the frame distance are one and the same. I can't get it to concentrically mate properly. The first will mate just fine, the second will tell me it's off by whatever distance the model is off. If I move it closer, the failure distance gets close. This leads me to beleive the dimension is right and that the program doesn't recognize what I want to mate. It says the concentric mate will over define the part, but I only have 2 degrees of freedom mate in a 3d model. wtf?
Any solidworks expert can help me out? It's a huge pain in the *** when **** like this happens and I need help ASAP.
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Re: WTF solidworks (ludesrv)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Preferio »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I didnt' read any of that. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I did, and I still have no idea what he said.
I did, and I still have no idea what he said.
i HAS questions ?
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Re: WTF solidworks (ludesrv)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludesrv »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, so I'm working on my suspension design and I'm stuggling with this stupid weldment thing. I made a rear frame for my design and used the frame designers dimension to maintain his specs. I used his suspension mounting bar.
My problem, the distance between the 2 mating circular cut out for the suspension mount and the frame distance are one and the same. I can't get it to concentrically mate properly. The first will mate just fine, the second will tell me it's off by whatever distance the model is off. If I move it closer, the failure distance gets close. This leads me to beleive the dimension is right and that the program doesn't recognize what I want to mate. It says the concentric mate will over define the part, but I only have 2 degrees of freedom mate in a 3d model. wtf?
Any solidworks expert can help me out? It's a huge pain in the *** when **** like this happens and I need help ASAP.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Call Solidworks tech support. They have people to answer questions like that. One of my friends here did an internship for them.
My problem, the distance between the 2 mating circular cut out for the suspension mount and the frame distance are one and the same. I can't get it to concentrically mate properly. The first will mate just fine, the second will tell me it's off by whatever distance the model is off. If I move it closer, the failure distance gets close. This leads me to beleive the dimension is right and that the program doesn't recognize what I want to mate. It says the concentric mate will over define the part, but I only have 2 degrees of freedom mate in a 3d model. wtf?
Any solidworks expert can help me out? It's a huge pain in the *** when **** like this happens and I need help ASAP.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Call Solidworks tech support. They have people to answer questions like that. One of my friends here did an internship for them.
Re: WTF solidworks (90JPRCRX)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90JPRCRX »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I did, and I still have no idea what he said. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I also have no idea what he said.
I did, and I still have no idea what he said.
</TD></TR></TABLE>I also have no idea what he said.
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Re: WTF solidworks (JDM_Ej)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_Ej »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This should probably be moved to the Welding and Fabrication forum...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Actually, not at all.
Haven't personally used solidworks though, so I can't help you, sorry.
Actually, not at all.
Haven't personally used solidworks though, so I can't help you, sorry.
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Re: (ludesrv)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ludesrv »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alright alright, here's a graphical representation:
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OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THAT EXPLAINS IT!
</TD></TR></TABLE>OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH THAT EXPLAINS IT!
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Re: WTF solidworks (The Phil)
I don't use solidworks (anymore), but I run into constraint errors all the time
Bottom line, you're doing it wrong/operator error.
Did you constrain those 2 holes within the assembly or did you do it at the part level? If you constrained them within the assembly, that might be your problem or one of your other constraints just might be off.
Whenever you run into an error like this, its usually just easier to delete most of the constraints on that part and redo in, instead of fuucking around and cursing, etc
If you are banging your head of a 2-part assembly, wait until its a 2000 part dynamic/linked geometry shindig
Also, even though you *think* the dimensions will work, if they are off even my .001MM, then the constraint function won't work, it needs to be EXACT.
Bottom line, you're doing it wrong/operator error.
Did you constrain those 2 holes within the assembly or did you do it at the part level? If you constrained them within the assembly, that might be your problem or one of your other constraints just might be off.
Whenever you run into an error like this, its usually just easier to delete most of the constraints on that part and redo in, instead of fuucking around and cursing, etc
If you are banging your head of a 2-part assembly, wait until its a 2000 part dynamic/linked geometry shindig
Also, even though you *think* the dimensions will work, if they are off even my .001MM, then the constraint function won't work, it needs to be EXACT.
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Re: WTF solidworks (ucb)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ucb »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't use solidworks, but I run into constraint errors all the time
Bottom line, you're doing it wrong/operator error.
Did you constrain those 2 holes within the assembly or did you do it at the part level? If you constrained them within the assembly, that might be your problem or one of your other constraints just might be off.
Whenever you run into an error like this, its usually just easier to delete most of the constraints on that part and redo in, instead of fuucking around and cursing, etc
If you are banging your head of a 2-part assembly, wait until its a 2000 part dynamic/linked geometry shindig
Also, even though you *think* the dimensions will work, if they are off even my .001MM, then the constraint function won't work, it needs to be EXACT. </TD></TR></TABLE>
They are exact dimension (since I remade both part) and I inputted them in a simple assembly so I wouldn't have to deal with those 1000s of mates assemblies (sub assemblies FTMFW!). I've redone it 3-4 times now, even remade both parts since I didn't trust my team mates parts. I don't get it. It's pissing me off. I'm thinking of just fudging it cause it's not my actual design I'm just making it cause I can't get my teammate to redo it for the design.
Oh, and for those wondering (if any), I'm designing the 2009 SAE Mini baja suspension for Conestoga College, trying to make the frame so I can mount my suspension design to show my teacher cause he keeps being a bitch about it.
Bottom line, you're doing it wrong/operator error.
Did you constrain those 2 holes within the assembly or did you do it at the part level? If you constrained them within the assembly, that might be your problem or one of your other constraints just might be off.
Whenever you run into an error like this, its usually just easier to delete most of the constraints on that part and redo in, instead of fuucking around and cursing, etc
If you are banging your head of a 2-part assembly, wait until its a 2000 part dynamic/linked geometry shindig
Also, even though you *think* the dimensions will work, if they are off even my .001MM, then the constraint function won't work, it needs to be EXACT. </TD></TR></TABLE>
They are exact dimension (since I remade both part) and I inputted them in a simple assembly so I wouldn't have to deal with those 1000s of mates assemblies (sub assemblies FTMFW!). I've redone it 3-4 times now, even remade both parts since I didn't trust my team mates parts. I don't get it. It's pissing me off. I'm thinking of just fudging it cause it's not my actual design I'm just making it cause I can't get my teammate to redo it for the design.
Oh, and for those wondering (if any), I'm designing the 2009 SAE Mini baja suspension for Conestoga College, trying to make the frame so I can mount my suspension design to show my teacher cause he keeps being a bitch about it.
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BAH! I got it. Now I know, never trust fellow team mate models. Went back and loaded up his model and found that he had messed up in a few areas as far as measurements went.
Got it working now, now I can input my suspension assembly into this frame crap.
Nice. Thanks for the help all!
Got it working now, now I can input my suspension assembly into this frame crap.
Nice. Thanks for the help all!
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Re: (Intense3.2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Intense3.2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow... ht to the resue... ucb of all people... 
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yea who woulda thought...
</TD></TR></TABLE>yea who woulda thought...
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Re: (ludesrv)
Seb, I think it's because you changed that rear angle back to flat as opposed to the 10 degree incline that we originally designed it to. It worked perfectly fine when I constrained it, so that might be the issue. Also, I created two different brackets for the front and the back. The back one is longer than the front.
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Re: (Twixle)
Damn I was seriously going to answer the question. I kept reading on and getting excited that i actually knew what the issue was. Then UCB came in and ruined it for me.... 
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Re: (newby_j)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newby_j »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn I was seriously going to answer the question. I kept reading on and getting excited that i actually knew what the issue was. Then UCB came in and ruined it for me.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
no you wasn't.
</TD></TR></TABLE>no you wasn't.
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Re: (newby_j)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newby_j »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">really I was. I use that program very day. 
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lol that sucks
</TD></TR></TABLE>lol that sucks