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Old Jul 11, 2023 | 04:36 PM
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I think I'm going to ditch my D16Y8 swap and go F23A1 as a complete engine no trans came up local to me for CHEAP. What axles do I need to run? I seen on here 91-93 accord axles work or H swap axles.
HUB. I know B axles won't fit into my STD civic hubs, what about the accord axles? If not what hubs do I need? Do i need to swap the entire spindle or can I just swap a new hub or wheel bearing if possible?
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Old Jul 12, 2023 | 06:13 PM
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Apparently "Chrisfrom1986" deleted his comment or it was removed as I don't see it but it's in my email inbox.

"Chrisfrom1986: You got too many questions and no research. This ain't going to happen"

Yeah I thought the forums were the place to ask questions but thanks for reminding me I'm not allowed to ask questions or seek help on an IDEA I had.
Admin we can delete this post now I'll just forget about it
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Old Jul 13, 2023 | 01:19 AM
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Nobody is here to spoon feed you. Your questions alone show you've done no research. Everything you've asked can be found by searching Google.

Go post in the noob section, this isn't the forum for pipe dream ideas, it's for technical discussion.
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Old Jul 13, 2023 | 03:36 AM
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There are two main options for getting an F23 in your EF based on transmission

A) direct swap with F23 and matched transmission: while this is probably the most cost effective it's maybe not the best. the ratios commonly available are not ideal for the intended use. as you have found already, options and or knowledge on axles and hubs to make it work may take some digging to get straight.

B) F2B/H2B- a b-series transmission can be adapted to the F23 so axles, shift linkage, hubs ect. could all be the same as a b-series swap which is well documented for this chassis. search "plateless H2B"

D) there is a third, unhinged option to use a D-series transmission. But I don't think kits are available anymore so it would require sourcing one used. The pros: axles, shift linkage half of the mounts and the hubs can all stay as they are. The cons: as stated- availability of the kit, cutting part of the block off to clear the left inner CV joint and clearance for the belts.
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Old Jul 13, 2023 | 05:01 AM
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Default Re: F series into EF hatch STD

Originally Posted by Chrisfrom1986
Nobody is here to spoon feed you. Your questions alone show you've done no research. Everything you've asked can be found by searching Google.

Go post in the noob section, this isn't the forum for pipe dream ideas, it's for technical discussion.
Okay smart ***, i wasnt asking for spoon fed anything, i ask about hubs, axles and what exists for the aftermarket now a days, Ya know swapping your 30 year old Honda isnt the most popular thing anymore. I Actually did a couple hours of googling and figured out all the wiring which is the basically an H and i can get a complete tucked swap harness just like with a D or B. Mounts, the fancy shifter to use the 2 cable shifter in linkage cars and some other little bits were quick finds too. I Also seen not many people have posted much about there F swapped EF, mostly B, H here and there and K for the big players and even a couple J's now come on. and most of them have Si or other trims thats not the base base that came with tiny hubs and a 4 speed. So no i will not go post into the noob section dont ruin forums because you want to talk down on people that are asking a few questions and act like some elitist. You didn't know anything about these cars either at one point. go shove your "pipe dream" up your *** i see im not allowed to ask question on forums. People with smart replies like you are what make me want to quit messing with these Hondas and get into somithing else. I Heard the cobalt SS guys have some cool tricks too. So what if i posted in the wrong group god help us all, go tag an admin

Originally Posted by hondamark35
There are two main options for getting an F23 in your EF based on transmission

A) direct swap with F23 and matched transmission: while this is probably the most cost effective it's maybe not the best. the ratios commonly available are not ideal for the intended use. as you have found already, options and or knowledge on axles and hubs to make it work may take some digging to get straight.

B) F2B/H2B- a b-series transmission can be adapted to the F23 so axles, shift linkage, hubs ect. could all be the same as a b-series swap which is well documented for this chassis. search "plateless H2B"

D) there is a third, unhinged option to use a D-series transmission. But I don't think kits are available anymore so it would require sourcing one used. The pros: axles, shift linkage half of the mounts and the hubs can all stay as they are. The cons: as stated- availability of the kit, cutting part of the block off to clear the left inner CV joint and clearance for the belts.
If i were to go this route i would just get the accord trans but i also believe the F/H2D doesnt really exist anymore as i would have tried to use my Y8 5 speed. F/H2B still does on a couple sites but i dont have a B trans. I Also agree the accord gear ratios aren't really race car but in such a light car like an EF i imagine it could scoot pretty well. My Y8 block is currently in the shop getting a rehone and a surface deck but i might sell it and the head off and peruse the F/H purely out of spite
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