i recently installed some kyb agx on my dc4(roughly a month ago), followed exactly what was shown on the kyb diagram....anyways i was driving home today, from the bay to the valley(cali)...heard i a weird noise while driving on the freeway, then before i knew it something fell out from under my car....after a while the front passenger side started to bounce like hell, almost cause an accident with some cars around me...so i exited the freeway to check it...soon as i poped my hood i notice that my shock
(top portion that shows when hood is poped) was gone, it was under the shell of the car...the nut that goes on top of the washer was gone and so was the top bushing...when i checked throughly....WTF?! luckily i got home safe....soon as i got home i jacked up the car and took of the shock....took a look at the thread on the shock (where the nut goes to hold it in place) and it looks like nut was stripped off the shock, as if the material that makes up the thread was not strong enough to support it...im thinking i should talk to kyb about this...here are some pics they're crappy but lest it shows where the nut was stripped off....

here's pics of the installaion instruction that i followed exactly, *bottom of shock up*it was the bump stop then the bump stop plate, didn't use the dust cover or duct cover plate, then it was the spring that wen on next...on the damper mounting base it was the mounting rubber(bottom of base w/collar connecting to it), mount collar goes through mounting base conntects to the top mounting rubber then the washer and finally the nut...i mean it's not even hard, that exactly what i did...how can it be installation error


here's how the shock (as pointed my the arrow) was when i poped my hood to check my car after i exited the freeway yesterday


and here's what happened did to my mounting base


and for those of you who asks how tight i torque the nut, here's a pic of the drive side shock to give you an idea



Modified by HmgLauj69 at 12:58 PM 5/19/2004


Modified by HmgLauj69 at 12:58 PM 5/24/2004

 

Why did you screw the nut down that far? Every set of shocks I have used, there is only about half an inch of thread above it.

 

i didn't think it would matter, does it? are there torque spec's on these nuts?

 

That same thing happened to my buddies accord, but his deal was he didnt tighten that top nut all the way down, so it backed its self off.

 

Have mine on since August '02. Nothing wrong. Installer error?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HmgLauj69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i didn't think it would matter, does it? are there torque spec's on these nuts?</TD></TR></TABLE>
On the Tokicos they are about 13 lbs-ft.

 

Sounds like user/ installer error. I have had agx's on my car for about 1 1/2-2 yrs and have done them on a friends car. Suspension is not something to play around with. If you dont have the mechanical ability or knowledge to install them corectly, take it to someone who does. (no offense to your work)

 

its your own fualt you should have put them on right, if you call KYB they are gona tell you you obviously dont know what your doing then they will probably laugh at you becuase you now need to buy another shock from them

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BB2H23A1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its your own fualt you should have put them on right, if you call KYB they are gona tell you you obviously dont know what your doing then they will probably laugh at you becuase you now need to buy another shock from them </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

it looks like you tightened the bolt down way too far..i usually only have only a half an inch of thread.Tightening it down too far would make the spring pressure against the bolt alot higher and could cause the thread to strip.Ive never head a problem with KYB's or tokico shocks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMotive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it looks like you tightened the bolt down way too far..i usually only have only a half an inch of thread.Tightening it down too far would make the spring pressure against the bolt alot higher and could cause the thread to strip.Ive never head a problem with KYB's or tokico shocks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

when you tighten it, it's not even hand tight when it's a half inch of thread showing right? can someone tell me the torque specs for the shocks, i whould think kyb supplies that info somewhere....if it helps, it's droped on h&r sports

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 92b16vx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
On the Tokicos they are about 13 lbs-ft.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i just talked to a buddy of mines and he told me that on his tokico's he has them hand tight! and that your supposed to? WTF! mines wasn't even hand tight...

 

how tight were yours?When i hand tighten all of mine the thread doesnt even come through the top of the nut.Of course i dont have a spring compressor and have a friend(big guy) put his weight on the spring to compress it,than hand tighten the nut on the thread,than wrench it down until ive got approx. 1/4-1/2 of thread showing max.I never have torqued them down.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HmgLauj69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just talked to a buddy of mines and he told me that on his tokico's he has them hand tight! and that your supposed to? WTF! mines wasn't even hand tight...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't know how he managed that since they have locking tabs on them.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMotive &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how tight were yours?When i hand tighten all of mine the thread doesnt even come through the top of the nut.Of course i dont have a spring compressor and have a friend(big guy) put his weight on the spring to compress it,than hand tighten the nut on the thread,than wrench it down until ive got approx. 1/4-1/2 of thread showing max.I never have torqued them down.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'll say about half and inch was showing...almost near hand tight, i was running h&r sports with them...**anyways i just have notify kyb about my situation**....but thinking about it here's what i think happened....let me know if my reasoning is correct or not...if you notice kyb doesn't use self-locking nuts where as honda does...and if you werent to tighten the nut hand tight or tighter i would figure vibriations will cause the nut to unscrew...results = disastrous stiuation....


*just a little something for kyb to know it's me

 

bump for the new pics and for more comments!!!!!

 

When I installed my AGX's I used 2 nuts to lock down the shock. However, from your pic, it looks like you only used 1 nut.

 

in the instruciton diagram there's only one nut use...why did you use two? and is it supose to be two?

 

the instructions will tell you to compress the structs several times before installing because oil leaks into the chamber when they're on the shelf for a period of time,same thing happened to me.when oil gets into the chamber the shaft cannot compress.

 

what? your saying oil got into my shock?

 

i just installed a set myself of kyb's on a 92 civic hatch and i used two nuts on evryone becasue they are locking nuts and when i gthened them it came down to baout the same height and at that point there wasnt any preload on the spring so yes it looks like they were isntalled correctly with the exception of putting the second nut on

 

same thing happen on my rex but since it came with the car i cant do nothing about it.

 

yeah the shocks come with two nuts for each strut i used both of them on mine. the second one is used to lock down the first nut.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec94civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah the shocks come with two nuts for each strut i used both of them on mine. the second one is used to lock down the first nut.</TD></TR></TABLE>

arghh!!! why didn't kyb mention anything about this in thier instructions??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eLusive ek4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just installed a set myself of kyb's on a 92 civic hatch and i used two nuts on evryone becasue they are locking nuts and when i gthened them it came down to baout the same height and at that point there wasnt any preload on the spring so yes it looks like they were isntalled correctly with the exception of putting the second nut on</TD></TR></TABLE>

how tight did you torque it?