Now thats what I'm talking about. Real world testing. So we now know it doesn't work on a Ford Exploder.

 

i wonder if those fix-a-dent things work

 

I'll let you know when I get dentures. My grandma used it and it kept hers in quite well. Without she could do an impression of the alien and when she took em out she looked just like the bitter beer face guy.

 

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Haha!

In all seriousness the reviews were mixed on the fix-a-dent. If you look on the site I linked the review is on there somewhere.

 

I am going to manufacture Blinker Fluid and VTEC specific oil just so retarded people will buy it for no apparant reason

man I wish I had 70 bux to waste on some stupid piece of metal that costs 5 bux to make

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ShowTymers619 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">honestly if you think there theory works.. good but you realized after the TB and the dividing of air by 4 = intake runners "speaking for most honda" .. you really think theres still "tornado effect" going on? you be the judge... plus placing an object in the intake causes loss of velocity of air also.. which in theory is a no gain
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so there goes the whole idea of using internal venturis in manifolds

 

venturis are mostly for carb. engines to mix the fuel by speeding air velocity.

I never seen it used in a fuel injected car yet so i dont know if it will work.

Tornado is crap, it is like the gaurantee to pass smog test stuff, = does not work

 

I have a Tornado Fuelsaver on my 95 civic Si and I have to say that I definitely noticed smoother, quicker acceleration and improved throttle response. One guy mentioned a placebo affect but I know this isn't true because I had to readjust my shifting immediately after installing the fuelsaver(I kept chirping the tires). I also had my trepidations about the device being an obstruction especially at higher engine speeds, so I took it out after a while and I definitely lost something on the low end. I don't know if I noticed any difference on the high end but I definitely didn't gain anything by taking it out.

 

thanks for your review.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Paradigm1381 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a Tornado Fuelsaver on my 95 civic Si and I have to say that I definitely noticed smoother, quicker acceleration and improved throttle response. One guy mentioned a placebo affect but I know this isn't true because I had to readjust my shifting immediately after installing the fuelsaver(I kept chirping the tires). I also had my trepidations about the device being an obstruction especially at higher engine speeds, so I took it out after a while and I definitely lost something on the low end. I don't know if I noticed any difference on the high end but I definitely didn't gain anything by taking it out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow! This thing gave you so much more power that you had to adjust your shifting?

Wait a minute...I smell something! BULLSHIT !

 

geez people and their rudeness

us H-T'ers are ********

 

I can't believe people still think this kind of crap can help.

Any supposed "tornado effect" is gone when the air divides up to fill the multiple cylinders through multiple valves. The device only serves as an obstruction, which will harm high-RPM performance. It's a placebo at best.

If it worked, race cars would use it. If I see the C5-Rs and Ferraris at LeMans using a Tornado, then I'll consider it. Until then, or until proof is provided by scientists and not sales reps, it's bunk.

I know people who slap "Type R" stickers on their cars and notice improved throttle response.

 

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If it worked, race cars would use it. If I see the C5-Rs and Ferraris at LeMans using a Tornado, then I'll consider it. Until then, or until proof is provided by scientists and not sales reps, it's bunk.
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i heard somewhere that they already do use that concept... ferraris at least... that the design of their combustion chamber and intake runners are designed that the air entering the chambers are basically "swirled" in. the only difference here is that the effect takes place before the intake runners rather than in or after them.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by taz77 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i heard somewhere that they already do use that concept... ferraris at least... that the design of their combustion chamber and intake runners are designed that the air entering the chambers are basically "swirled" in. the only difference here is that the effect takes place before the intake runners rather than in or after them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Honda already uses this "design" kinda in VTEC-e engines. Basicly the combustion chamber an intake ports were designed to mix the fuel. However, the restriction of this product was not there.

Basic, until somepays the $40's to do the two dyno pulls (one with it on, one with it off) it will remain a POS, and is open to flaming.

But to the one hater, my racing blinker fluid did make my headlights alot brighter, and the effects don't stop there. My engine runs quieter, I get better gas millage, and geo Metro's are no longer good compitors with my beast.

 

I think all combustion chambers, pistons, and runners are designed to mix fuel/air a certain way. Thats an old concept. Its just that the technology has become much more superior and the engineers are finding better ways to do this.

 

**** a turbo. Tornado fuelsaver all the way!!

 

 

If the "tornado" is in the air intake tubing, I don't see how the "tornado" goes through the TB, into the intake runners, while still having a "tornado" effect. Waste money on tornados all you want.

 

what would happen if you put a smaller version of this into each intake runer?

it would then have a better effect wouldn't it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dirtyd463 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what would happen if you put a smaller version of this into each intake runer?

it would then have a better effect wouldn't it</TD></TR></TABLE>

Intake runners on cars are already designed to maximize proper mixture of air and fuel. This not only maximizes power, but also emissions and fuel efficiency.

Making any modification which screws up this air flow is not going to help you.

Some people believe that a small company knows more about air flow than large corporations with money and talent, such as Honda and GM. Follow the money: it's a gimmick to get your money from your wallet.

 

I bought a tornado and gained 10 horsepower like they said i got better gas mileage too. i love the tornado!

 

Hold on a second.

I'm willing to bet none of the members who have posted so far have a college degree in the physics of airflow dynamics. It's an EXTREMELY complex field of study....So how do you KNOW that the air is not still swirling after it passes through the intake manifold and the intake runners? Just because it seems like it wouldn't? That's horrible logic. You don't believe that the Tornado works without dyno proof, but saying that the IM messes up the tornado effect is just as baseless!

An obstruction? When you are vacuuming out your car and you slightly cover the vacuum hose, it sucks harder through the part that is still unobstructed. So why wouldnt your engine do the same thing?

And what about the two members who have personally used the product and given it their butt-dnyno approval? Do they have a hidden agenda to get you to buy it? Are they lying to the rest of us? I hardly think that is likely.

I have never personally used the Tornado, and while I do think that the company overstates realistic gains, I don't think they are lying completely. And for maybe 2 actual horsepower and maybe a 2 mpg increase, isn't that still worth the $60?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by copperfox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hold on a second.

I'm willing to bet none of the members who have posted so far have a college degree in the physics of airflow dynamics. It's an EXTREMELY complex field of study....So how do you KNOW that the air is not still swirling after it passes through the intake manifold and the intake runners? Just because it seems like it wouldn't? That's horrible logic. You don't believe that the Tornado works without dyno proof, but saying that the IM messes up the tornado effect is just as baseless!

An obstruction? When you are vacuuming out your car and you slightly cover the vacuum hose, it sucks harder through the part that is still unobstructed. So why wouldnt your engine do the same thing?

And what about the two members who have personally used the product and given it their butt-dnyno approval? Do they have a hidden agenda to get you to buy it? Are they lying to the rest of us? I hardly think that is likely.

I have never personally used the Tornado, and while I do think that the company overstates realistic gains, I don't think they are lying completely. And for maybe 2 actual horsepower and maybe a 2 mpg increase, isn't that still worth the $60?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Don't bet on what degree I have or don't have, you might be sorry, there are quiet a bit of intelligent people up in here! Let's say you do, or atleast, you know little bit of physics...you wouldn't say anything like
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Makes you sound like an idiot if you are claiming to know your physics. Plus on top of that I'm not saying it works or not, but you have got to realize it takes energy to suck in air and also energy to move air (in a tornado or whatever) and that energy is used up by the energy (lost energy!).
Just to be fair how about you use your "college degree in the physics of airflow dynamics" to explain how this thing DOES make power?

 

so would the air still be spinging when its ging down the runner who knows about this kidna sheyat.

 

ha

murtnabila I appreciate your criticism, but I think you missed my point. I never said I had a degree in any type of physics, but then again I never said that the tornado effect would be lost once it got past the tb and im, other people did.

Secondly, I realize that the quote you highlighted was not my strongest argument. What I failed to mention was that although the intake may be breathing at a slower speed, the incoming air may be more dense.

I'm not going to try to explain the phyics behind a device which I do not understand fully, but if I was to guess I would say that the tornado not only rotates the intake air, it also compresses it, and therefore is able to provide power and mileage gains.

Remember, power is not determined by the speed of the air, but rather the density and oxygen content.

One final note: Everybody knows that honda motors are quite efficient right from the factory. So if a 95 si driver saw minimal gains, I'm sure that the owner of a domestic would be even more satisfied.