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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:30 AM
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cant find anything on this subject. i have a b18b and i know the stock injectors and rail are only good up to a certain amount of hp, but does anyone know what that number is?
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:56 AM
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turbo or NA? stock injectors are good for maybe 200whp?? rail is good to 4-500whp
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 10:00 AM
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Here is a calculator to help you out, its at the bottom. Read the notes regarding the brake specific fuel pressure.
http://www.rceng.com/technical.aspx
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 10:11 AM
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Default Re: question on stock injectors and rail

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Here is a calculator to help you out, its at the bottom. Read the notes regarding the brake specific fuel consumption.
http://www.rceng.com/technical.aspx
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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turbo or NA? stock injectors are good for maybe 200whp?? rail is good to 4-500whp
im running n/a. i want to keep this engine street and smog legal so im lookin for some power but not too aggressive. and i think 200whp is good enough for me
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 11:12 AM
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 05:19 PM
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can anyone confirm what dpetro stated?
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 05:01 AM
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hmm, i actually might adjust my estimate down some. i looked through a bunch of dyno sheets on the evans tuning site, most 200whp builds had a least 310cc injectors. i did see a 186whp itr w/ stock injectors and i believe a 192whp ls/vtec w/ stock injectors.

maybe tuner with some NA experience can chime in
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 10:10 AM
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ya they are all 240cc i read somewhere. ill probably just use the stock stuff until i cant anymore.

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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 04:55 PM
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crank up the base fuel to 90 lbs and theyll flow 330cc's give or take. not sure how well but theyll flow more.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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Default Re: question on stock injectors and rail

as in chip the ecu to run more fuel?
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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no. an aftermarket fpr instead of an oem fpr. you can adjust the base fuel. itll raise the pressure to flow more then 240cc at 42 psi. instead it would be 330cc +/- at 90 psi so to speak. that is, if you have the fuel pump to do that.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 09:27 PM
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Default Re: question on stock injectors and rail

can i run bigger injectors without upgrading the fuel pump and rail, etc?
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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yea, but the stock pump can only handle so much, rail is good to 750ish tho. a friends car has had the oem rail and oem fpr for years, full tilt it make 754 last time on the dyno.
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 10:38 AM
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my setup is a ported ls head, valve job, crane cams and valvetrain. probably blox IM and TB. so does it look like i can run all the factory fuel components?
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 10:47 AM
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Default Re: question on stock injectors and rail

Originally Posted by down_the_hatch
so does it look like i can run all the factory fuel components?
most likely yes. maybe bigger injectors depending on your hp goal. what whp are you shooting for? i assume you might be around 170whp on a non-vtec motor with those mods
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Default Re: question on stock injectors and rail

ya thats about what im goin for. a streetable mild build
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 06:19 PM
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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ok...
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 04:19 PM
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Default Re: question on stock injectors and rail

what about when it comes down to tuning?
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