Yeah, well I tried all night to get it out. To no avail. I guess I will get everyone together that had problems...more strength in numbers.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zero...age=2

Check out the detailed pic.

 

I assume you sprayed bunches of silicon lube, etc, from the other side. I think the trick to getting it out is figuring which way the splines have twisted and as you hit it from the back side, twist on the flange from the outside. Basically you have to hit it and unscrew it at the same time. If you can use an air powered chisel to knock on it as you twist, it should come loose. Good luck

 

i think OBX is fine . . . for other people. after a couple years we will know if they're okay. as for me, i stick to things that are very proven. it's better to spend once on what you really need than be buying the same part twice and fixing whatever damage the crappy first one caused. i buy parts for my goals. if i were expecting 250whp or up, i would save for a quaife. since 250whp and a quaife are both expensive, i'll stick with less power and an ITR LSD.

 

Thanks Earl...I payed a local shop, Imerj, to take the axle out...

 

I've also experinced the same OBX lsd/axle problem. I destroyed two axles before I heard about the OBX axle issue. As 1.8EG-T, I too had to have the second axle removed by a machine shop.
On the plus side...I have also installed a completely different OBX lsd with no axle issues, but I do not know why.

 

Yeah...I can honestly say that I will not ever buy another OBX product, not only because of their great craftsmanship, but their SORRY customer service.

 

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i went with an OEM Type-R LSD. wanna know why? costs less than OBX by a little, and is tried and true. Honda has been selling roughly the same design since 1990. this is 2005. that's 15 years of experiece on the market, and they only break when you drop them hard or put too much power through them. great engineering Honda. for my power goals, i'll never have to worry about breaking it. As for OBX, it hasn't been on the market for long, so we don't know how long it may last or if there are any complications or whatnot. we just don't know. all we know is that they work well when new. we have no clue if it will last, or if the poorer machining quality and looser tolerances will have long-term effects on the transmission's other internals. go with OEM. Honda makes the best parts for Hondas, period.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I did the same. Plus check this exchange between me and Quaife.

https://honda-tech.com/zero...28924

I've also asked on HT about the torque bias ratio of the ITR LSD:

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1142762

 

Wow...why the hostility from Quaffe?

 

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I never understood their position. Either Ralph Hollack (Quaife rep) simply didn't know, or their product is no better or possibly inferior to the ITR helical LSD. After that exchange, I opted for the ITR LSD in my transmission and the difference is quite noticeable.

 

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go quaifle or however you spell it, i got it on my h22 and its greatt!!!

 

so an OEM ITR LSD will be no good at 400whp?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by onezexycrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so an OEM ITR LSD will be no good at 400whp?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you can eliminate the wheel hop it would hold, correct me if I am wrong, but wheel hop does most of the destroying of the diff along with the axles?

 

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and they only break when you drop them hard or put too much power through them. </TD></TR></TABLE>



then whats the freakin point most of our cars need the diff because they got TOO much power and no traction.

i just orderd a quaife diff for my tranny, it never crossed my mind going for that generic cheaper ****. I cant wait till 2nd gear burnouts

 

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then whats the freakin point most of our cars need the diff because they got TOO much power and no traction.

i just orderd a quaife diff for my tranny, it never crossed my mind going for that generic cheaper ****. I cant wait till 2nd gear burnouts </TD></TR></TABLE>

I wanted an LSD for the improved cornering ability and the improved poor weather traction. Like 95lstegman (I think), my motor is NA. In that case, the OEM ITR unit is a much more financially sound choice. Plus even with turbo, most people will never see the 400-450 HP that Ralph Hollack from Quaife "rumored" will break the OEM ITR LSD. (See my above post for the link.) If you are seeing that much HP, a spool would be a much better choice for that drag car.

From my exchange with Quaife, I could not discern any difference between their unit and the OEM ITR unit besides about $550. Please ask Quaife what the torque bias ratio of their unit is and by how much it is superior than the ITR unit. The link is below:
mailto:info@quaifeamerica.com

In other words, ask for hard numerical data. I'm curious to see if their answers have changed in the past two years. I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with the Quaife unit, however, Quaife could not justify the premium for their product. As a consumer, that is a bad sign.

 

Thought I would post up my OBX experience...

So, I recently purchased a OBX LSD for a friend of mine who has a B16 powered Del Sol. It seemed to get decent reviews and it came with a "Lifetime Warranty". Although, it hasn't been on the market for a long time. Upon installation it seemed to work ok. However, after attempting to take the transmission off the car after a week or so proved to be quite difficult. Although, the OBX unit is supposed to be a copy of quaife's ATB unit it appears that isn't exactly true. Trying to remove the passenger side axle is nearly impossible. Infact, we had to destroy the axle to get it out. In the mean time, and also ended up bending the tranny housing.

Here is a picture of the problem...


So, I contacted the vendor I purchased it from and he agreed to return it to OBX for inspection. 2-3 weeks pass as I wait for a decision.
Here is the Conversation that followed...

(7:42 PM 5/12/2005) Me: Any word from OBX?
(7:47 PM 5/12/2005) Honda-Tech vendor: Its being shipped back to me. They said they only cover manufactor defect damage. That this doesnt fall under those terms as a manufactor flaw. So it will be shipped back to you within the next 3-4 business days .

So, I arrive home yesterday and the OBX LSD is sitting on my front door.

So, with no other choice left I call my credit card company, and dispute the charges. I was initially worried that I wouldn't get my money back b/c I paypaled him the money, but my CC doesn't care.... Money returned. Although the product's purchase price was refunded, I'm still left with shipping costs, a damaged axle, and a damaged tranny case.

OBX's Lifetime warranty is obviously worth nothing... consider yourself warned!

 

hmm....still sounds like a manufacture defect....?

 

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Agreed. If it is not a defect, did OBX intend for the axles to not ever come out?

 

No kidding right? Maybe they don't realize that axle's break?

 

They do, but they're one of those shitty company's that only produce cheap crap to make a quick buck and hten move on...the sooner everyone realizes this, the sooner they can starve.

 

1320 sells quiafe for $835 (maybe old thread) Il sell my ITR LSD for $300 to where im really paying $535 for the quaife. When it comes to my trans only the best goes in it. I have a Kaaz for my Rx7 diff, sucker costs $900 but is worth every penny.

Only things i rock OBX are their Bar/plate FMIC and tubular turbo mani. Made rediculous whp on 10 psi.

 

Consider the following:

CHEAP
FAST
GOOD

You can only pick two. Getting all three is not going to be possible.

Sure, OBX is cheaper, and maybe performs comparably. But that does not mean it is as good.

For us, FAST and GOOD are the primary choices. Cheap stuff not only causes problems with fitment and reliability, the pride that goes along with selling them is non-existant.

 

If you're rich you can have all three.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ls1 FD3s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you're rich you can have all three. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Wrong. If you are rich, that does not make things cheap. It means you can afford them.

A Maybach is not a cheap car, even for the likes of Donald Trump. Just because he can afford one does not change that fact.

 

OMFG dude, you need to relax i was just making a funny. Holy jesus some people are just too rediculous on H-T.