just wanted to see all of the clean/good ideas that HT tuners are using for their tuning be it street or dyno whatever just curious on how you guys have set your stuff up ie: ecu..datalogging, wideband ect (wow im bored)



this is a pic of my CROME-PRO tuning setup... it is a p28 with a built in romulator
and a usb hondalog (datalogging) basically an s300 for 1/4 the price
realtime updates/autotune (trying to figure out how to have it make coffe for me while i tune) anyways if you guys have some kool setups please post pics...

 

Looks good, besides what your saying about the price. Since your running CROME PRO = $150 + Datalogger = $30/35 + ROMulator = $175 = $360.

Granted, I love my CROME PRO, but im really starting to lean out of it and go towards the S300 with all of the options it has.

 

got the same setup too and still learning

CromePro on my spare P28

still i'm a newb so it's been couple of days doin my street tune with a PLX-M300 WB. will be rechipping my other P30 soon and see if i can take advantage of the knock sensor when tuning timing.

 

I just took pics of all my crap too. I'll post today.

Crome PRO on IBM Thinkpad T30
USB Burn1 (no Ostrich yet)
PLX-M300 Wideband Currently OPEN LOOP.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dxcoupe. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Looks good, besides what your saying about the price. Since your running CROME PRO = $150 + Datalogger = $30/35 + ROMulator = $175 = $360.

Granted, I love my CROME PRO, but im really starting to lean out of it and go towards the S300 with all of the options it has.</TD></TR></TABLE> corect and s300 is 595.00?? and what options ?? just wondering

 

* Fits inside the ECU
* Built on the proven s100/s200 code base
* USB connection for speed and compatibility
* SManager Windows based software for parameter & table editing, calibration uploading and datalogging.
* Real-time updating of ECU
* Built in calibrations for common engine combinations
* Built in datalogging to a laptop
* On board datalogging memory (2 MB memory, 20-60 minutes datalogging)
* Adjustment for different sized injectors, with overall fuel trim.
* Configurable for any MAP sensor (to at 5 Bar and above)
* TPS based table lookup for ITBs
* Engine protection from over boost.
* Expanded fuel and ignition tables, both in rpm and load, to 60 lbs boost and 11,000 rpm (these are not the upper limits)
* Launch control with anti-lag
* Full throttle shift
* Two multi purpose outputs for nitrous control or similar
* Lambda tracing (with a wideband o2 sensor)
* PWM output for boost control

SManager editing software features:

* High and low speed 24 x 20 ignition and fuel tables for correct VTEC tuning
* Injector size fuel trim
* Fuel trim for starting, throttle tip in and individual cylinder trim
* Rev limiter with fuel cut or fuel and ignition cut
* Launch control with anti-lag
* Full throttle shift
* Adjustable VTEC window with load and throttle control
* Secondary intake runner control
* Adjustable idle speed
* MAP sensor type and calibration
* Adjustable boost cut with hot and cold settings
* Shift light
* Closed loop control
* Air temperature compensation
* Water temperature compensation
* Fuel and ignition correction based on gear
* A/C shutoff conditions
* Closed loop
* Two general purpose outputs for nitrous control, dual boost control or similar
* On board datalogging trigger conditions

 

Whitfield - where did you get the romulator? I'm working with the ostrich, and was wondering how hard it'd be to mount it inside the ecu.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dxcoupe. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> * Fits inside the ECU
* Built on the proven s100/s200 code base
* USB connection for speed and compatibility
* SManager Windows based software for parameter & table editing, calibration uploading and datalogging.
* Real-time updating of ECU
* Built in calibrations for common engine combinations
* Built in datalogging to a laptop
* On board datalogging memory (2 MB memory, 20-60 minutes datalogging)
* Adjustment for different sized injectors, with overall fuel trim.
* Configurable for any MAP sensor (to at 5 Bar and above)
* TPS based table lookup for ITBs
* Engine protection from over boost.
* Expanded fuel and ignition tables, both in rpm and load, to 60 lbs boost and 11,000 rpm (these are not the upper limits)
* Launch control with anti-lag
* Full throttle shift
* Two multi purpose outputs for nitrous control or similar
* Lambda tracing (with a wideband o2 sensor)
* PWM output for boost control

SManager editing software features:

* High and low speed 24 x 20 ignition and fuel tables for correct VTEC tuning
* Injector size fuel trim
* Fuel trim for starting, throttle tip in and individual cylinder trim
* Rev limiter with fuel cut or fuel and ignition cut
* Launch control with anti-lag
* Full throttle shift
* Adjustable VTEC window with load and throttle control
* Secondary intake runner control
* Adjustable idle speed
* MAP sensor type and calibration
* Adjustable boost cut with hot and cold settings
* Shift light
* Closed loop control
* Air temperature compensation
* Water temperature compensation
* Fuel and ignition correction based on gear
* A/C shutoff conditions
* Closed loop
* Two general purpose outputs for nitrous control, dual boost control or similar
* On board datalogging trigger conditions
</TD></TR></TABLE>ok what of this is not in crome ?? at least my crome


i mounted the transtronics romulator indise the ecu (where the knock board would be in a p30/p72)


i really did not want this to turn into a debate of s300 vs crome pro ...I tune every single day and have used both systems amd i am telling you there is NOTHING that can be done with hondata that cannot be done with crome for free!!! yess hondata is good i tune it all the time bhut crome is just as good and cheaper period

 

I haven't really tinkered with any of my cars in about two years, so i'm still using uberdata. I don't have any pics, but if I did, it would look something like this:

 

lol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WHITFIELD-TUNED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

S300 has anti-lag and nitrous control.

I use Crome Pro all the time also burning chips for myself and friends when they change their setup. I don't think I would ever swap over to the s300, it was just comparing features and prices.

 

I know it is a little off topic but it's related to DIY tuning. I had my car tuned on regular CROME w/race gas and sence have rebuilt my motor adding ONLY a Eagle crank & rods, new barings, piston rings, and cleaned up the head castings. I dident mark the dizzy when disassambled, whats the best way to get the timing back to what it was when tuned? It should be running tomarrow. I have a chip burner, timing gun, techedge wideband for tuning. I have no hands on experience tuning a car but have read ALOT about it because I was going to do the tuning myself but pussed out because I dident want to jump right into it with a turbo and all the money I have down.


Modified by spicyEM1 at 10:02 PM 9/26/2006

 

my crome also has nos control through the aib circuit

i always set static timing at 15 deg btdc and make all the timing adjustments through crome

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WHITFIELD-TUNED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my crome also has nos control through the aib circuit

i always set static timing at 15 deg btdc and make all the timing adjustments through crome </TD></TR></TABLE>

Care to shed more light? I am not running Vtec and thought about running it through that last night setting Vtec Points for the Nitrous power on the solenoid. But how Would I go about wiring it?

So the solenoids would still be grounded through the micro switch for the WOT. And the power would still go to a switch to enable/disable the nitrous. But the ECU would technically be a window switch.

The only thing is, you can run a seperate map like you can with the s300.

I have never tuned a car on nitrous, so I'd like some help if you have experience.

 

my nitrous control is activated through the aib out put which is useder defined by rpm there is a very good writeup on pgmfi.org i will try to post pics

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dxcoupe. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> * Fits inside the ECU
* Built on the proven s100/s200 code base
* USB connection for speed and compatibility
* SManager Windows based software for parameter & table editing, calibration uploading and datalogging.
* Real-time updating of ECU
* Built in calibrations for common engine combinations
* Built in datalogging to a laptop
* On board datalogging memory (2 MB memory, 20-60 minutes datalogging)
* Adjustment for different sized injectors, with overall fuel trim.
* Configurable for any MAP sensor (to at 5 Bar and above)
* TPS based table lookup for ITBs
* Engine protection from over boost.
* Expanded fuel and ignition tables, both in rpm and load, to 60 lbs boost and 11,000 rpm (these are not the upper limits)
* Launch control with anti-lag
* Full throttle shift
* Two multi purpose outputs for nitrous control or similar
* Lambda tracing (with a wideband o2 sensor)
* PWM output for boost control

SManager editing software features:

* High and low speed 24 x 20 ignition and fuel tables for correct VTEC tuning
* Injector size fuel trim
* Fuel trim for starting, throttle tip in and individual cylinder trim
* Rev limiter with fuel cut or fuel and ignition cut
* Launch control with anti-lag
* Full throttle shift
* Adjustable VTEC window with load and throttle control
* Secondary intake runner control
* Adjustable idle speed
* MAP sensor type and calibration
* Adjustable boost cut with hot and cold settings
* Shift light
* Closed loop control
* Air temperature compensation
* Water temperature compensation
* Fuel and ignition correction based on gear
* A/C shutoff conditions
* Closed loop
* Two general purpose outputs for nitrous control, dual boost control or similar
* On board datalogging trigger conditions
</TD></TR></TABLE>

blah blah blah blah.

 

lol and you get all that for $595.00 plus the ecu and paying someone to socket and install the s300 kool i guess but i will still be recc CROME to every one of my customers

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WHITFIELD-TUNED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my nitrous control is activated through the aib out put which is useder defined by rpm there is a very good writeup on pgmfi.org i will try to post pics </TD></TR></TABLE>

post pics or link the write up!

 

I just looked over at PGMFI and i couldn't find anything, let me know what you find.

 

i will find it today

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WHITFIELD-TUNED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i will find it today </TD></TR></TABLE>

awesome I looked and couldn't find it.

*probably looking too hard

 

im using all the free programs yeah cuz im cheap but it still works crome v1.2 owns you
it does almost all the things pro does.

 

Hey ive been looking into buying a chipped ecu or something... OP where did you get that setup? I want to be able to tune through my laptop. Can anyone post some links to where i can learn about this stuff? Ive never done any tuning before but want to learn more about how its done.

Nm.. im an idiot.. i see it in your sig..^^^

One question though... how do you connect an ecu to a laptop for tuning?


Modified by HoUTX98GSR at 4:10 PM 9/29/2006

 

have you found that link yet?

 

READ CAREFULLY: The procedure to add IABs is different depending on how they are wired. One IAB wire will always run to the ECU, the other will run to either +12v or gnd. Choose the procedure to match how your car is wired! This is very important!
USDM ODB1 B18C: ( ECU sends ground, IAB wired to +12v )
IAB conversion... (this is for Manual cars only, but an AUTO USDM ECU converted to manual will have all the parts you need present)
Remove: R135...11F0/1720 autos only R150...1980/LS only
Add:
Q17(A143)...already present on USDM auto 11F0/1720 (A5x, L5x, etc). Not present on EDM auto 11F0/1720 (G5x, etc).
Q34(D1780 or C3225?)... already present on USDM auto 11F0/1720 (A5x, L5x, etc). Not present on EDM auto 11F0/1720 (G5x, etc). may use PCS trans: Q31(D1780)
jumper from right hole of R135(trans side) to D13(arrow side)
Jumper wire for OBD1 IAB control:
ODB2 & JDM B18C conversions: ( ECU sends +12v, IAB wired to GND )
above procedure not needed...
Remove: Q34
cut control leg of IC15 short and solder signal carrying wire to it (thread wire through hole)and solder other 515 X High Side Switch pins in place
solder other end of wire to control hole of q34.
add C61 (1uF 35V tantalum cap) for 515 X High Side Switch.
add Q17(A143)...already present on USDM auto 11F0/1720 (A5x, L5x, etc). Not present on EDM auto 11F0/1720 (G5x, etc).
Use P72 code with knock disabled . Similar install on LS ecus.
Pin A19 will be your IAB output on the OBD1 harness.
High side switch for OBD2 IAB control:




Chris WHITFIELD
p.s i use the aib to control the ground on the NOS relay note: you must stil have an arming switch or the nos will activate in every gear after whatever rpm that you specify