Making 240 whp and overcamming issues
Hey guys I wanted to get some opinions on my setup and whether or not im overcamming or not.
As of right now Im making 200 whp and 160 tq from a setup similar to an lsvtec but with larger pistons with a 11.5 compression. Im planning on installing skunk 2 stage 2 cams but i wasnt sure if it wouldnt considered overcamming for the streets. I track my car (not as much as i should) but Id like to keep the torque for daily driving, My question is will installing skunk2 stage 2s kill the torque dramatically? I have yet to do anything to the head, but planning on porting and polishing it later on when i get the funds and and while im at it im going to put in the skunk 2s.
As of right now Im making 200 whp and 160 tq from a setup similar to an lsvtec but with larger pistons with a 11.5 compression. Im planning on installing skunk 2 stage 2 cams but i wasnt sure if it wouldnt considered overcamming for the streets. I track my car (not as much as i should) but Id like to keep the torque for daily driving, My question is will installing skunk2 stage 2s kill the torque dramatically? I have yet to do anything to the head, but planning on porting and polishing it later on when i get the funds and and while im at it im going to put in the skunk 2s.
i believe stage 2's or not that radical of a cam however when your racing your never in bottom rpm anyways so i wouldl definetely go with the cam setup
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by faSHOwidIT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fill me in. What does overcamming mean?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i think he means that if he buys a heavy cam, his power will be at 9 grand as opposed to his stock cam which probably makes better lower end where he wants some torque
i think he means that if he buys a heavy cam, his power will be at 9 grand as opposed to his stock cam which probably makes better lower end where he wants some torque
Im mostly concered at how it'll affect the daily driveabilty, i LOVE the 160 torque and after a few months of breaking it in, i cant even imagine driving everyday without it, but i still want to make more power, but I'm not sure just how its going to affect the low and midrange.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by L33T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im mostly concered at how it'll affect the daily driveabilty, i LOVE the 160 torque and after a few months of breaking it in, i cant even imagine driving everyday without it, but i still want to make more power, but I'm not sure just how its going to affect the low and midrange. </TD></TR></TABLE>
cmon dude you have VTEC...thats the whole purpose of vtec..the best of low-mid range torque HP on the small lobes high HP and torque on the mid lobe!!
stage 2's arent gonna kill your torque..that mid lobe is gonna def give you more power depending on what cam you have already
cmon dude you have VTEC...thats the whole purpose of vtec..the best of low-mid range torque HP on the small lobes high HP and torque on the mid lobe!!
stage 2's arent gonna kill your torque..that mid lobe is gonna def give you more power depending on what cam you have already
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well as of right now im breaking in the bottom end with stock cams. I just wasnt sure how much torque id lose if i went with the stage 2's. well hopefully I'll be able to post the results of my engine build up.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by L33T »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well as of right now im breaking in the bottom end with stock cams. I just wasnt sure how much torque id lose if i went with the stage 2's. well hopefully I'll be able to post the results of my engine build up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you should of broke it in with some s2s2 cams...too late now!!good luck though
you should of broke it in with some s2s2 cams...too late now!!good luck though
If you're running stock cams now, whatever they are, a stage 1 or 2 cam should still be streetable. Look at Skunk's new Pro1's.......they're supposed to have excellent midrange. Bear in mind that the older S2 stage 1 is actually very aggressive on the top lobe and you might not even need to go stg 2.
My buddy has S2 stg1's in his H22 and there is no loss of bottom end power at all, if anything there's more.
My buddy has S2 stg1's in his H22 and there is no loss of bottom end power at all, if anything there's more.
Not saying he can't run Stage 2's, just that if he's after bottom and midrange torque, then the Stg2 may have a racier primary lobe which will sacrifice some of that.
Or it might not.....I don't remember the specs and I don't think Skunk advertises them, which is a PITA.
Or it might not.....I don't remember the specs and I don't think Skunk advertises them, which is a PITA.
well I'm hoping not to lose bottom end power, but what im mostly concerned with is the daily driveabilty, like will the large lobes give me a rough idle, and the long term effects on the head and valvetrain running the not so little lobes. Another thing that confuses me are the variations of their cams, I know the older cams were very aggressive, but with all the variations, im wondering which version of the skunk cams i got.
What do you mean, "which version of Skunk cams I got"? Are you currently running S2? Did you buy a set to throw into your motor?
As far as I know, there are the original Stage 1, 2, 3, and now there is the Pro1, probably soon to be followed by Pro2, Pro3 etc. I don't know if they ever changed the grind of the Stg 1/2/3 cams. What I do know is that few VTEC cams will have an aggressive enough primary/secondary lobe that you will actually hear or feel any 'lump' at idle.
As far as I know, there are the original Stage 1, 2, 3, and now there is the Pro1, probably soon to be followed by Pro2, Pro3 etc. I don't know if they ever changed the grind of the Stg 1/2/3 cams. What I do know is that few VTEC cams will have an aggressive enough primary/secondary lobe that you will actually hear or feel any 'lump' at idle.
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