and i thought wisconsin was bad......

 

91 supras rock jdm motors lol! um what kind of jdm motor you want because u can make it legal if you want if you change some parts to usdm

 

I am also a smog tech and I just got off the phone with the ref in the bay area and the answer is...

NO, they are not going to let these motors pass anymore. I even asked about single and dual cam motors just to throw him a curve and he said no.

So much for the ZC I was getting ready to rebuild. Anyone need a boat anchor?

 

thats one beautiful thing about chicago. No more emissions if ur not obd2. no checks under the hood. nothing. its a beautiful thing.

 

it was plural marriage jack *** lol.

most of pa is pretty low key, just need a visual cat at inspection, no emissions though where im at. but you need a yearly inspection and registration renewal which blows. plus you can open carry handguns out here and it only costs 20 bucks for a concealed weapons permit lol. so you can take out a silly ricer on the way to the grocery store lol....jk

 

so what happens to the ppl who already BAR'd their cars before the "new" law/standards...? I was so close to bringing my p30 b16 crx in to get BAR'd! = (

 

Like most laws you get "grandfathered in".

 

For VIN tags on OBD2 motors, that is a yes... The VIN tag started during the 96 yr to identify motors with the car and if someone were to steal your car, that motor would be identified as stolen and a "HOT" motor. It is a helpful tool for people who get there car stolen. JDM motors never came with them but some had rivet holes for them, correct me if Im wrong?...

Second question, would not know where. Your best bet is to get that custom made, meaning custom stamping/chiseling tool..

 

so im assuming that a zc sohc engine is illegal to swap in my car to replace my d15b2 even though the zc is similar to the d16a6...?

 

this is why we should all just start rockin pre 1976 cars and just turn those out investment and power OG status sounds good.

 

im wondering the same **** because i have a sohc zc which replaced my old and tired d16a6. its the same freaking motor and has always passed smog no problem and i have never been popped since i swapped it in back in 02.

 

my buddy has a sohc zc in his 90 crx...with all the proper emissions components. i have an 88 Crx with a DOHC ZC swap. i have never passed emissions with it. it has new cat, o2 sensor, exhaust plugs wires, etc...soo i just registered it historic and drive it on the weekends...and NOT to work

 

oh and sorry his 90 crx si with jdm sohc did pass emissions!!!! so it is possible bro!

 

this is a good thread, i dont see why its a problem to have a swapped motor if all the emissions stuff is on it and it runs clean

 

Because Cali needs another excuse to get some money for there broke *** state. They have always founds ways to fuxx the people there. Especially the import car schene. Its funny how none of the loud muscle cars get this type of treatment. I always wanted to live in Cali and still do. But I love the fact I can do whatever I want to my car here where I live. And the fact its hella cheap here to. If Cali would ease up on there BS the, there reputation would get better. Its a shame that a place like that can have all the things a person wants but they still cant keep people living there.

 

especially if the k is newer and less likely to burn oil

 

i am from cali but i live in arizona at the moment but my crx had a dohc cam zc in it when i was in cali and it was fine to smog a few years ago, but one day some smog guy decided to say that it failed after he ran the test and it ran clean.

But right now i am smog exempt for california because i am in arizona and they wont accept a out of state smog.... love the military for that just sucks if i ever have to come back to cali i will have to swap motors when smog comes around

 

I just find it pathetic... that people who want to do right, are given such strict laws? I mean, go after the knuckle heads putting engines in and out of their ****, but what about straight edge people wanting to "upgrade" the engine in our cars, use all compatible smog equipment and be on our way?

Anyone that will put themselves through registration wants to do the right thing and up the value of his car by having the state recognize the new engine in that particular car, seriously. Why do they simply fail visuals because of a goddang letter on the block, why?? If you ask any true engine techs, jdm motors run just as clean as us spec... and they are stronger!! As long as all the smog equipment is there, no biggie. But naaaaaww, you can't use that because there is no such thing as a B16A1 or a A2 if its not OBD-II. Fawk... that... ****.

Anyone wanna start a petition???

 

Laws are driven by much more than sense. Actually, sense is last on the criteria list, if on it at all! Somehow this must be a money maker for someone. Who knows...bottom line, its always about the dollar.

Also, its very unfortunate for us straight shooter type people to be grouped with the 'knuckleheads.' However, this is simply part of owning a modified Honda. For every good honda guy, there are probably 1,000 knuckleheads. I'd probably group us too if I were on the other side, lol.

All my engine code needs is a "5" at the end for it to be visually correct. I even went out and sprung for the $100 purge valve from Acura. *sigh*

 

there is no way to tell the difference between a usdm and jdm b18c besides the 1 or 5. you guys seriously need to find a good number punch.

 

Head stamp. Some know the PR3 versus P72 heads, which can be a determing factor when bar'ing, in fact, when I bar'd my B17A1 like 5 years ago, I remember speaking with the ref about such differences. He had no clue and he was literally taking notes! That was at the Rio Hondo ref station.

Anyways, if you stamp a 5 on a B18C, it will then be viewed as a USDM type r engine by the ref. We all know those came with vin tags, but the jdm engines dont! Some people have noted that ref's do check vin tags on USDM obd2 engines. I feel its all at the discretion of the ref, like always, but the chance of him checking does exist. Ive already thought about pursuing this, as you can see by my questions on the previous page.

 

no one said you can't swap motors, you just gotta keep it usdm ... all jdm motor are off road uses only motor anyway, its right in the fine print if you actually read it . yes some people b4 got they're motor bar'ing them, that is b4 cali cop knew anything about imports ... the fight on imports isn't just cause of emission, its knocking 2 bird down with one stone. they are also looking for hot motors that are in peoples cars that are driving around... since cali is the highest state of honda getting stolen....

 

My understanding was that nothing has "changed" but that they just "clarified" what they had meant all along. That being that Japanese engines are only legal in direct 1 to 1 replacements, and only with all the USDM smog bits, just like before. If you are changing the engine at all then it must be all pure USDM hardware though and through.

It also means that the only thing the ref does now is a visual inspection and slap you a sticker, you need to now take it to a regular smog station to get it smogged.

Unfortunately I can't remember where I had heard this information, just glad that I got my sticker a couple months before this crap happened.

 

i have to say that what yall get,them dam lil kids street racing and killing ppl,stop street racing,if one ppl change hell alot would fallow

 

No, I think things have changed. They used to accept jdm engines as long as they were converted. Now, not so.

And yes, I heard about that visual thing only too.