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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 08:23 PM
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Default I got the new 4 piece Crower cams!!!

They have been in and running for about a month now, and before that they were in the motor of a good friend of mine, so I'm confident they were broken in accordingly.

Well, this is the aftermath of my latest adventure:





This part bothers me almost more than the cams breaking...A retainer has actually broken...and I cannot find the other piece What you see is the actual valve spring where the part of the retainer has disappeared...

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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 08:38 PM
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Sorry bro that sucks. Have you contacted Crower? Is it just the pic or does the cam look discolored in areas?
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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hey man that same **** happened to my home boys b20 crx just a week ago in the same exact places he already called crower and told him they would give him a new pair, but he don't wanna run them anymore.....he bent #2 and #3 ext valves..it was the ext cam that broke
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 10:39 PM
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Gawd Dayam!!!! How the hell did you do that? I have never seen anything like that before. Did anything else go out as a result of this? Man, thats some crazy *** drivin....I give you props.....
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 11:29 PM
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****, how did that happen again?
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 12:13 AM
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Call me stupid for asking but did you torque them in sequence and correct specs? Hmm wonder if there is a flaw in construction. Sorry dood.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 12:37 AM
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join the club dude, we had some break right at 1000 miles both broke , 1 in 2 spots, the other in 1 spot
they were the b18b/a non vtec cams
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 02:42 AM
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what cause's them to break?I heard no torquing them right will do that.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 04:21 AM
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damn i looked and was like "how the hell do you break a cam"????
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 04:45 AM
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Hey bro, same **** happened to 2 buddies of mine. We were at the track, one of the guys does his run and the exhaust cam breaks at the tree. The other guy lines up after him and also breaks the exhaust cam. Also at the tree!! They were both using the same crower cams, now they're running skunk 2.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:14 AM
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I'm willing to bet that it's fualty on the installation of the cams. Crowers people said that it was a mistake for their 1st batch of cams that they made, but they have since them changed and fixed the problem accordingly.

call crowler and complaine!
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 07:39 AM
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hey if anyone can help me figure out which is better stock or skunk2 cam on a jrsc b16 Post ( https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=440431 ) i might have a pair of skunk2 cams for sale for ya since it soundds like the crowers snap. thanks and good luck


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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 08:21 AM
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Damn, that sucks man. Definately find where that other piece of the retainer went. Most likely it's inside one of the valvespring assemblies. GL
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 08:50 AM
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I'm willing to bet that it's fualty on the installation of the cams. Crowers people said that it was a mistake for their 1st batch of cams that they made, but they have since them changed and fixed the problem accordingly.

call crowler and complaine!
Yea, I would think so also, but I follow procedure when installing new goodies and use the correcet torque and sequences, so I'm pretty confident that this is the result of poor craftsmanship
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 09:08 AM
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oh ****, that's no good.
hope your motor made it out alive!

time for skunk2 ay?
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 09:36 AM
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I'm willing to bet that it's fualty on the installation of the cams. Crowers people said that it was a mistake for their 1st batch of cams that they made, but they have since them changed and fixed the problem accordingly.

call crowler and complaine!

Yea, I would think so also, but I follow procedure when installing new goodies and use the correcet torque and sequences, so I'm pretty confident that this is the result of poor craftsmanship
YES!!!!
we follow TQ specs to the "T" , we know how to freaking install a cam right , never ever had a cam break till we did crowers. adn crower tries to tell us its the person who installed thems fault why they broke, **** THAT, crower custoemr service sucks
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:30 AM
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YES!!!!
we follow TQ specs to the "T" , we know how to freaking install a cam right , never ever had a cam break till we did crowers. adn crower tries to tell us its the person who installed thems fault why they broke, **** THAT, crower custoemr service sucks
Well, today I spoke with Brian again and he said it was'nt a problem to replace any and all damaged parts, so I am certainly relieved to hear that they are willing to work with me...
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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i know alot of people who have had crower's break..
sorry man.
def. contact crower.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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Good to hear they are gonna work with you.

Pull that head and have it completely cleaned. Whatever you do, find that broken retainer piece before you do anything else!

Good luck.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:42 AM
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I know I won't be buying Crower cams now. I want cams that won't break and wont' cost me extra money in the end of it all...
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 10:58 AM
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YES!!!!
we follow TQ specs to the "T" , we know how to freaking install a cam right , never ever had a cam break till we did crowers. adn crower tries to tell us its the person who installed thems fault why they broke, **** THAT, crower custoemr service sucks

Well, today I spoke with Brian again and he said it was'nt a problem to replace any and all damaged parts, so I am certainly relieved to hear that they are willing to work with me...
yea they will just send you a new set of cams, you wont get a refund or money back for any other damages
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 02:42 PM
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Coil bind maybe?
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 03:02 PM
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Someone on the FI board posted about the necessity of running type R lost motion assemblies, because they about 0.020" more clearance.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 03:03 PM
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Well that's no fun..sorry to hear about your bad luck!

I was gonna get some crower 62404 cams...maybe I'll research some others...
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 03:22 PM
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https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=359458
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