perrformance wise...... need help






Modified by gaydm.accord at 7:43 AM 10/9/2003

 

Magnaflow for performance. Hope that you like them loud.

 

lol no i dont like them loud, and btw its just stock h22 in accord would a resonator keep the noise level down lets say to minimal or to NO NOISE at all haha

 

yep, resonator will make a big *** difference in noise. The longer the quieter.

 

Don't know that a resonator would help with the magnaflow. It isn't high pitched and raspy, but it is VERY deep. I just took my magnaflow cat-back off of my civ after only 4 weeks of use and replaced it with an RSR Ex-Mag. The sound resonated really loud within the cabin and was quite annoying. I talked to a few shops on how to address the problem and general consensus was that a resonator wouldn't help with the "deep" sound. Only option would have been to get a bigger muffler with more sound dampening material. I had a 6x6x14 and from what I was told a 5x8x14 would have been the same.

However it may sound better on the h22. Much bigger engine than my little 1.6L sohc.

 

how do you guys like your es ovals?

 

i just installed a magnaflow yesterday afternoon.i give it ..Its quite outside and deep inside while driving on the street. I love it. not one single sign raspyniss, jsut a nice smooth deep tone. I recommend it, plus i fell a nice smooth power band. At vtec, wow sounds sweet. So far everyone gives me good compliments. Oh did i mention i bought it off a friend for 10 bucks only 500 miles on it.

 

magnaflow looks magna-giant.....too big imo, go with the ES.

 

katman the es oval is bigger than the magna flow fyi

 

Magnaflow makes a muffler which is the same size as the Es Oval. As far as Magnaflow, I installed one on my honda about a week ago and I'm very happy with it. It sounds very nice (not too loud + it's deep) and as far as performance, it's great too.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gaydm.accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">katman the es oval is bigger than the magna flow fyi</TD></TR></TABLE>

...sorry shoulda been more specific..

piping-diameter wise or just general muffler size?

The picture of the Magna muff looks like it has awfully big piping....or is the illusion of the muff being smaller, makes the piping look bigga?

 

piping diameter can be changed. i bought my magnaflow from kteller8

(www.accordinglydone.com/store) - plug

but after reading up quite a bit on the es oval vs the magnaflow, the magnaflows are built better, you can change the piping diameter (i have 2.25 - much better than the 3-3.5 inch ricer crap) it's solid, and has warranty. i have yet to put mine on, so i can't comment on sound, but it must be better than the 3" tip one i have that has a 4" hole in the bottom.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kommon_sense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't know that a resonator would help with the magnaflow. It isn't high pitched and raspy, but it is VERY deep. I just took my magnaflow cat-back off of my civ after only 4 weeks of use and replaced it with an RSR Ex-Mag. The sound resonated really loud within the cabin and was quite annoying. I talked to a few shops on how to address the problem and general consensus was that a resonator wouldn't help with the "deep" sound. Only option would have been to get a bigger muffler with more sound dampening material. I had a 6x6x14 and from what I was told a 5x8x14 would have been the same.

However it may sound better on the h22. Much bigger engine than my little 1.6L sohc.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Resonator would have helped. Thats what theyre made for. Either way it sounds like your happy with your RSR.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kommon_sense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't know that a resonator would help with the magnaflow. It isn't high pitched and raspy, but it is VERY deep. I just took my magnaflow cat-back off of my civ after only 4 weeks of use and replaced it with an RSR Ex-Mag. The sound resonated really loud within the cabin and was quite annoying. I talked to a few shops on how to address the problem and general consensus was that a resonator wouldn't help with the "deep" sound. Only option would have been to get a bigger muffler with more sound dampening material. I had a 6x6x14 and from what I was told a 5x8x14 would have been the same.

However it may sound better on the h22. Much bigger engine than my little 1.6L sohc.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I can say I agree with him I have 2.25 inch custom bent piping from the cat back with no resonator and a magnaflow oval muffler, forgot what size and it isn't that loud from the outside, but is really really deep sounding and the sound resonates really loud within the cabin and it is quite annoying. I will be replacing mine within the next few weeks, with a Tanabe exhaust system which I miss greatly. Mine is also on a 1.6 sohc motor so I don't know about your set up on the accord. But I use to have a 96 Accord with the stock F22B1 motor and I had Tanabe Super Racing Spec cat back exhaust and it wasn't that loud on the inside of the cabin, but maybe that is because I had a EX Accord and now I have a DX Civic Hatch I don't know.

 

Once again, I suggest using a resonator. 4 cylinders have a lot of harmonics produced for a little muffler at the back end to kill. Resonators help very well, thats why on 90% of all aftermarket systems you will find resonators on 4 cyls. No matter what manufacturer you go with.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Magnaflow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Once again, I suggest using a resonator. 4 cylinders have a lot of harmonics produced for a little muffler at the back end to kill. Resonators help very well, thats why on 90% of all aftermarket systems you will find resonators on 4 cyls. No matter what manufacturer you go with. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I heard you the first time, I didn't want this exhaust in the first place, but I needed to fix my exhaust quick because the stock exhaust system was bad and needed all new piping and the shop hooked me up with a cheaper than stock replacement and I wanted to see what it sounded like with a magnaflow, and I like the almost stock look because they painted it high temp flat black. But yeah if I had more money to spend on it at the time I would have had them weld in a resonator.

 

anybody own an es oval and a magnaflow oval before i want to know which one performs better either the es oval or the magnaflow oval dyno's would help too. i really liked the es oval but now im leaning toward the magnaflow oval

 

If you can find a measureable difference in performance between two straight-through mufflers of equal pipe diameter, I'll be impressed.

 

i had a 2.5" mangaflow/carsound 2.5 cat/no resonater/2.5 piping on my b16 for about 6 months. it sounded fine at idle and even at part throttle (deep) but at WOT it was raspy and extreemly loud at freeway speeds.

So i had a 2.5 resonator put on. 100x better!
it got rid of the raspyness at full throttle and it is so much more quiet. (you dont have to yell at the passenger to talk to them)

thought i would give the before/after of a resonater and a mag muffler at 2.5" piping

 

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Resonator would have helped. Thats what theyre made for. Either way it sounds like your happy with your RSR. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I called Magnaflow several times, they agreed. It wouldn't have solved my problem. I was told that I could try a longer resonator, but it would just make the sound a little deeper. That "deep" sound was what was resonating in the cabin. Outside of the car, it didn't sound bad at all.

Also, I had the complete cat-back from magnaflow, so I already had a 14" resonator. This wasn't a custom job done at the local muffler shop.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gaydm.accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anybody own an es oval and a magnaflow oval before i want to know which one performs better either the es oval or the magnaflow oval dyno's would help too. i really liked the es oval but now im leaning toward the magnaflow oval</TD></TR></TABLE>

Both are straight through, so no noticeable difference in performance. From the sound clips that I have heard, the ES has a more subtle tone than the magnaflow. so biggest difference between the 2 are styling (magnaflow is polished w/4" tip, es oval is not polished and no tip), and sound.

 

thanks for everyones input

 

i say go for the ES because the cops in cali arent too friendly about loud/deep mufflers. as for performance, there is hardly any if only the muffler is replaced.

 

They both sound exactly the same. You can buy a magnaflow with the same dimensions as the e's. There's really no difference in the mufflers themselves, I've held both in my hands and have driven, and heard both. You can probably get the magnaflow cheaper and easier, thats the main difference.

 

I've had both the magnaflow and the ES oval and personally I think the magnaflow is of better construction quailty than the es. The magnaflow is of an all welded design where as the ES is a crimped design. Go with the magnaflow you'll be happy with it. My setup is all 2.25" piping, car sound highflo cat, 21" magnaflow res. and the magnaflow oval muffler. I've never had any problems.