Hello all,

Total noob here. Thanks for having me.

I have an odd question. I have this friend, see. And he's not the most ethical guy. Whereas i myself would never consider being unethical or encouraging others to [pinoccio smilie]

And he wants to buy an old 5th generation honda civic with OBD1.

He used to get his oil burning, non OBD, 4rth generation civic by all the time. i think he said "cleen pippin," or "cleen typing" or something.

And i'm curious

Would he be able to go this route with an OBD1 tailpipe emissions inspection as easily as he did with non OBD?

Again, i'm just curious. This is for my own informational purposes. Please forgive all the awkward word choice.

And in all serious i sincerely do apologize to the mods if i've crossed the line. Sincere thanks.....

 

Oh, and i should add that this fellow is going to be getting his inspections done in Pennsylvania.

thanks again

 

WTF are you even talking about? Is that Engrish? Maybe you need to speak plainly. Not all of us are up on Pennsylvania slang terms.

 

Hi GrumbleMarc,

Thanks for reading my question. Please allow my "total noob" self to be more clear.

Can one cheat a tailpipe emissions test with an 1994 OBD civic as easily as they did with a 1990, non OBD, civic?

If a bad, oil burning, 1994 civic is driven up on to the Dynometer (1) while the the probe is inserted in to the tailpipe of a good clean auto, will the bad 1994 civic pass inspection?

I am aware that one can easily do this with a 1990 civic. Will it work as easily with a 1994 OBD1 civic?

Pennsylvania has tailpipe emissions tests for autos made in 1995 and prior. While 1996 autos and later models use OBD2 (some kind of code stuff? -- i'm not sure).

Again, in all serious i sincerely do apologize to the mods if i've crossed the line. Sincere thanks..... Please forgive me if i'm out of line.

I'm just asking for informational purposes only. I have no intention of actually engaging in this or any other unscrupulous activity. I do not wish to encourage others to engage in this or any other unscrupulous activity. I am just merely curious.

(1) Dynometer -- i believe this is the correct term for the emissions machine used for tailpipe testing that is used.

The terms, "cleen pippin" and "clean typing," are references to an illegal practice. Apparently, the mere mention of certain related terms on an automotive forum causes controversy and potentially other problems. This practice is apparently popular in California where they have smog testing.

Again, sorry for being a "total noob."

BTW, if anyone is still reading, I LOVE GrumbleMarc’s signature! LOL!

 

no obd is harder or easier.

if u have a guy who does illegal smogs he wont see a difference

 

We won't help you cheat the test in illegal ways on here.

However, there are plenty of ways to get a legal car (meaning, all needed parts on the car) that just happens to run a little dirty to pass. Methanol, ethanol, and isopropyl alcohol come to mind.

California doesn't specify what fuel is to be used during the test, and I highly doubt other states have restrictions on that either (especially the way fuel content keeps changing every few years).