<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rapid_roy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I could shift faster if my arm were shorter too.

Neither of those have anything to do with short shifters and their effect on synchros and how quickly they engage.

You making this point also brings up the issue of that in order to not damage synchros with a short shifter you have to shift slower than a stock one.

In mechanical terms it is slower over a shorter distance or faster over a longer one in order for the engagement times to be the same and not cause any premature wear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you suck at life. read the thread again and stop posting until you have ever actually seen the inside of a transmission.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by krustindumm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you suck at life. read the thread again and stop posting until you have ever actually seen the inside of a transmission.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sucking at life and understanding the inside of a transmission are 2 mutually exclusive things. I find it amazing, and yet morbidly fascinating that you are able to draw such complete conclusions about me without any actual knowledge.

I have read the thread, that's why I posted. You are dancing around the actual argument by tossing in the human variable which isn't what this thread is about.

When you are in school tomorrow pay attention this time. Your comprehension skills, and your communication skills are sorely lacking.

 

Every thing has been explained multiple times!!!

short throw shifters DO NOT cause transmission damage, the DRIVER causes transmission, the driver could cause just as much damage with a stock as with a short throw shifter

The only reason a car w/ a sts is more likely to have tranny damage than a car w/ stock is because of the use/abuse encountered by the car. buying a sts means you are more likely to drive agressivly, and aggressive driving leads to increased wear. there is more than one variable, the least important of which is the shift lever ratio.

/yourself
/thread

I'm done.

 

You throw out the logic card and then post that BS?!?!

The inclusion of a short shifter makes the person at the wheel drive more aggresively so THIS wears out the tranny quicker??

So lets say the driver is shifting as fast and as aggresively as he can - he is at the 'limit' and can shift no faster than he currently is.

Now he throws in a short shifter - what do you think will happen to the tranny since he is shifting as fast as possible - will the tranny behave in the same way?

From your logic, no extra wear will occur above and beyond what is happening now with the stock shifter IF staying at the same shift speed with the short shifter.

 

haha. it sounds like you guys are arguing the same side but with different reasoning. let's quit whining about who is right.

- damaged syncros is USER ERROR
- if you have the bad habit of not fully disengaging the clutch when you shift, you are hurting things with any shifter, it's just more prominent with a quicker ratio.
- short shifter is more LIKELY to make you want to drive more aggressive, but this is by no means solid fact. everyone drives differently.

and Roy, if your arm was shorter, you would not shift faster because you probably couldn't reach the shifter.