i finished my swap the other day and when i went to start it all the engine did was turn over. there wasnt any spark. i had the msd ignition working before the swap but now it not. i have checked the website for diagrams but the dont seem to help me. does anyone have any pics of there msd connections inside the dizzy. also any other advice of info would really help. its been like 3 day of us playing around with no success. please help

engine= b16a turbo



Modified by tallyturbo at 5:54 PM 1/13/2006

 

well i had the same problem and it turned out my car was firing wrong so you could check the wires and to which plug they should be firing to. i hope that helps somewhat

 

i havent even gotten to that point yet. i dont have spark at all.

 

you might want to check the resistance in the coil, if you have a multi meter set it in ohms and test the postive and negative side, to make sure your coil is good, if it is then try another ignition module if that doesnt work check your ecu and the wiring from the msd box to the cars coil remember the white wire is negative and red wire is coil postive

 

the ecu is good for sure. i have tried two of them. they both ran my other engine fine so i dont think that is the problem

 

is there a way to check the icm?

 

i think there is a way but its a honda dealer device, other than that i dont think so, any ignition module from a honda should work i think even a obd 0

 

are you sure the coil is good. does your msd box have a light that shows that its on

 

lucky me then because i have a d15 sitting up on a shelf in the shop. i guess ill have to snag that off of there

edit: it doesnt have a light but it is the blaster mds coil if that matters. it was working the day we took the engine out of the car

 

did the module work before you installed the msd

 

on my old engine yes the module did work with msd. but then i dropped in a b16 turbo and it doesnt seem to be working.

 

grab the coil from it too, if your module doesnt work put the stock coil and disconnect your msd other wise the msd box will make sure your coil is bad

 

which msd box do you have, the turbo should not have anything to do with it

 

do the coild burn out easy? i dont have a problem returning to stock ignition but i wonder why the msd isnt working right

 

i have the 6a. i know the turbo isnt going to change anything. because of the fact that then engine isnt even firing

 

because the computer sends a signal to your ignition module then it sends the signal to your coil and then the coil distributes the part by means of the rotor

 

i guess i am going to have to mess around with it tommorow. ill update when i get done

 

if you have a stock ignition system your coil should not burn , unless the windings inside of it are going bad, then they fail, its the windings inside the coil that go bad, what i want to make sure is that, its not your msd the one that is causing your motor not to fire, but if you used your stock coil and you still run your msd 6a box it will put more stress on the windings and it will cause it to fail sooner, a stock coil cant produce as much voltage as an aftermarket

 

i have good news and bad news. good is i got the ignition system working good. it sparks like it is supposed to and everything. now i am having a problem with fuel. i am using dsm 450's with a resistor box. the wierd thing is that it isnt getting any voltage through the system. im clueless once again and any help will be appriciated

 

to help u out, most honda ecus trigger the injector's negative side. the injector's positive side should be constant, and on the same line as the ecu's power line.

is your ecu getting power? does your ecu ground to the cylinder head? check that..
is your engine grounded? check that too.

these are no-start causes that many people including myself had.
you might want to post a new thread for your new problem.

i have mitchell and alldata. i can supply you with any diagrams or schematics if needed
get get that engine purring propah!

 

good news. car is running and no cel's. the injector problem was my fault because i forgot to plug the end cap of the wire harness. thanks for all the help though

 

Excellent.
thanks for the update, do a burnout for us.