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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 06:49 PM
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Default Bizare brake problem Please help!!!

I'm working on a friends car and it has this wierd *** brake problem.....brakes are fine at all times...but when you put it in reverse...the pedal hits the floor.

we have bled the the MC, and all four corners...but I suspect a vacuum problem or something...why else would this ONLY happen in reverse???
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 06:59 PM
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Ummm....that doesnt seem to make any sense at all to me???
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 07:16 PM
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Ummm....that doesnt seem to make any sense at all to me???
me either...I had to see it to believe it...I told the guy he was full of *****...but sure enough....only in reverse....thats when I bled his system for him...but same results...the booster must not be getting enough vac in reverse is all I can think of.
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 07:26 PM
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wow thats a new one
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 07:39 PM
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wow thats a new one
yup....

maybe it's just evil?
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 07:48 PM
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Default Re: Bizare brake problem Please help!!! (SuperDragII)

brakes suck, I just wnat my car to run....wtf?
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 08:11 PM
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Default Re: Bizare brake problem Please help!!! (SuperDragII)

wow thats a new one

yup....

maybe it's just evil?
its possible
i would say the brake booster vacum hose/line if i had to pick anything
maybe its just possesed.
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 08:14 PM
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there is vacume when u take the hose off, Im gonnaput ina new brake booster tomorrow, hopefuly thats it, any one have anyother ideas
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 08:36 PM
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its not becuse of it not getting enought vacume or you wond have that problem all the time does it have rear discs or drums? if drums check the (cant think of the name its late) thing that pushes the shose aganst the drums for leaks
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Old Apr 24, 2002 | 08:55 PM
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I just put on rear disk brakes, this is how the whole ordeal started
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 05:21 AM
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I don't think it's a vacuum. And air or a leak doesn't seem like it either. All of those would seem consistant if it were the case. I don't know what to say bro. Never heard of that. What kind of car is this? By the way, the thingy that pushes the shoes to the drums is a wheel cylinder.
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 05:30 AM
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Did you install a disc/disc master cylinder, or are you still using the same master cylinder from your previous disc/drum setup?

-Andie
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 06:06 AM
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Default Re: Bizare brake problem Please help!!! (cobalt)

Did you install a disc/disc master cylinder, or are you still using the same master cylinder from your previous disc/drum setup?

-Andie
he installed a set up from a 99 civic SI
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 06:07 AM
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Did you inspect the rear calipers? That's where I'd look first.
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 06:10 AM
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Did you inspect the rear calipers? That's where I'd look first.
I haven't taken them apart yet....but they seem fine...

what might we look for in them?
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 07:00 AM
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Default Re: Bizare brake problem Please help!!! (SuperDragII)

Broken seals........leaking fluid (don't think i needed to say that)
Take the pistions out and see if there scared or scratched......(caliper pistons!!!!)
I would check the seals first and if they don't look bad leave it alone until a rebuild kit is purchased.
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 08:34 AM
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externally they look fine...all seals are in good shape...I haven't pulled em apart yet though
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 09:36 AM
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Default Re: Bizare brake problem Please help!!! (SuperDragII)

I wouldn't if they look fine.....after all they are 99's.........

Where is "Fixhonda's"?? He might have seen this before.
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 09:45 AM
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TTT
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 06:08 PM
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Default Re: Bizare brake problem Please help!!! (On Point EK)

improper length on parking brake cables?

incorrect routing of hard lines?

I dunno, stumped me
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 06:18 PM
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how would the brake cables effect anything? the ebrake works on both sides......anyideas of why the ebrake would **** something up
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 07:06 PM
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Default Re: Bizare brake problem Please help!!! (SuperDragII)

...but when you put it in reverse...the pedal hits the floor.
does it have an automatic tranny?
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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 07:29 PM
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Default Re: Bizare brake problem Please help!!! (SuperDragII)

Did you install a disc/disc master cylinder, or are you still using the same master cylinder from your previous disc/drum setup?

-Andie

he installed a set up from a 99 civic SI
Did he swap the master cylinder and proportioning valve also?
Thats an interesting problem, i'm interested in hearing the cause.



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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 07:49 PM
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...but when you put it in reverse...the pedal hits the floor.
does it have an automatic tranny?
nope
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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 07:50 AM
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Did you figure it out yet? Let us know what it was.
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