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doood 07-31-2012 07:39 PM

let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
more specifically these: http://passwordjdm.com/PasswordJDM-F...P2134C326.aspx

need to replace the bushings and balljoints in my rsx and trying to decide if i should spend the extra for these or just do energy suspension urethane bushings. car is daily driven and mostly drag raced.

anybody have any experience with these or similar designs on something that's not a track whore?

98civdx 07-31-2012 08:47 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 

Originally Posted by solbrothers (Post 47680259)
id get hard rubber, if somebody makes it.

poly isn't where it's at

Why is poly "not where it's at?"



Personally, i wouldn't go with spherical bearings, its Not worth the extra cost.

I would go with poly, OEM bushings, or hard rubber. All are great choices, but poly is more of a pain

doood 07-31-2012 09:19 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
nobody makes hard rubber from what i've seen. the increased caster the spherical's would provide are also a nice benefit as this chassis is lacking in that department in stock form from the reading i've done. cost isnt much of an issue here.

doood 08-01-2012 09:02 AM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
i knew this thread wouldnt get much action since i'm not asking "bwr or d2 coilovers?" :thud:

phunhaus 08-01-2012 09:23 AM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
I've run spherical bushings on my street cars before. They DO get loud. It's unavoidable so please go into this knowing they are consumable wear/tear items.

That being said, I think a spherical is the only way around that shitty front LCA design with the bad compliance bushings.

98civdx 08-01-2012 09:57 AM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
I agree with above... if you can get around that, and justify the cost, go for it. Lol. They will can/ will be loud
Like he said.. Also, I really woundn't expect them to last that long on the streets. But hell, they might. I've heard very good things about the PCI trailing arm bushings. Also, them lasting quite a while on the street with road racing tossed in the mix.


My endlinks suck , they are are super loud.

mechanix619 08-01-2012 01:25 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
Your best option is hard rubber or OEM.

Neither poly or spherical will last as long as OEM and both make a lot of noise; if you are okay with either then they might be options but not for most.

ksport 08-01-2012 03:28 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
if you are serious with your suspension mods and want to be able to get the most out of your vehicle spherical would be the way to go!

1998GsRIntegra 08-01-2012 03:34 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
Give me a couple weeks and I'll be able to speak on those exact control arms, just for a DC integra. I ordered Kiwi's kit which is just the password parts with his name printed on them. I'm interested to see how things go because they are a sealed design on the LCA.

phunhaus 08-02-2012 06:46 AM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
A DC2 and DC5 don't share the same concerns. The front LCA on a DC5 has a compliance bushing that runs perpendicular to the ground and wears prematurely. It's a common design flaw as Nissan has similar issues.

92civiceg9gsr 08-03-2012 12:58 AM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
Poly bushings will tighten the FLCA's up but, poly bushings will cause the FLCA's to bind in their travel arc. If the car was a full time drag car this wouldn't matter. On the street though the binding will hurt the handling and you will chew up the poly bushings. IMO either hard rubber or spherical bearing are the only way to go.

tron_ 08-03-2012 05:35 AM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
I've been running ES poly in my car just fine with no squeaks/problems yet :shrug:

MonkeyMagic 08-03-2012 07:18 AM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 

Originally Posted by doood (Post 47681855)
i knew this thread wouldnt get much action since i'm not asking "bwr or d2 coilovers?" :thud:

lmao :beer:


Originally Posted by phunhaus (Post 47681975)
I've run spherical bushings on my street cars before. They DO get loud. It's unavoidable so please go into this knowing they are consumable wear/tear items.

That being said, I think a spherical is the only way around that shitty front LCA design with the bad compliance bushings.

this.

just keep in mind, every sharp bump is ever-so-slightly deforming the "bearings" which are more like a fancy heim joint. so like phunhaus said, they will get loud and will wear out and require replacement. but it's nowhere near as bad as people make it seem.

OMGZ, THEY'LL FALL OUT 2 MILES DOWN DA ROADZ!

simply put, no.

98civdx 08-03-2012 11:24 AM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
My endlinks made it 6000 miles. quality shit right there. :|

FlewByU352 08-03-2012 11:42 AM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 

Originally Posted by tron_ (Post 47689539)
I've been running ES poly in my car just fine with no squeaks/problems yet :shrug:

Same here. 15,000 hard miles and they still look and perform great!

MonkeyMagic 08-03-2012 02:08 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 

Originally Posted by 98civdx (Post 47690655)
My endlinks made it 6000 miles. quality shit right there. :|

christ, what brand?!

doood 08-03-2012 03:41 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
looks like hardrace makes hardened rubber bushings but there's not much info on them. their site sucks dick. :ugh:

98civdx 08-03-2012 04:01 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
What about PIC? or go baller and get Mugen. lol

doood 08-03-2012 04:14 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
havent found anything from pic, doesnt look like they make anything for this chassis. was just looking at the mugen's. they're not too bad on the price.

98civdx 08-03-2012 05:03 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 

Originally Posted by MonkeyMagic (Post 47691221)
christ, what brand?!

Blox.


Yeah, normally Mugen is one of the most expensive. lol

doood 08-03-2012 05:21 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
nvm lol looks like the prices for the mugen bushings are for just two. for a full set it's more than the pci sphericals. :scared:

98civdx 08-03-2012 05:44 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
Yep. Mugen makes you peice the the bushing kit togther. lol

doood 08-08-2012 07:43 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
after going back and forth racking my brain i settled on the energy suspension polys. the money i saved can be put to use elsewhere.

Lambo123 08-09-2012 09:42 PM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
You want rubber. This has been discussed many times. Unless you're straight tracking your car. I'd either go OEM first, Hardrace, or PIC. Although the Hardrace and PIC lca's come in horrible colors.

FlewByU352 08-10-2012 08:48 AM

Re: let's talk spherical lca bushings
 
I still haven't had a problem with the Energy Suspension bushings. While I agree spherical is the best, I don't agree that rubber is superior to polyurethane. Think you are buying a harder rubber, a harder rubber would try to resist change which is what everyone's gripe is with polyurethane. I have ran my ES bushings all throughout the suspension travel range, and they do flex quite a bit and I had no binding issues.


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