function7 front lca
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i remember reading a thread about it, but couldnt find it anymore. if youre reading function7, is it close to being released to the public?
Several prototypes have been on our test platforms for about 32 months. We will release them only when we are completely satisfied that their performance, safety etc meet our high standards, and that's about when we feel that they are good and ready for sale to the public.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Function7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Several prototypes have been on our test platforms for about 32 months. We will release them only when we are completely satisfied that their performance, safety etc meet our high standards, and that's about when we feel that they are good and ready for sale to the public.

-A</TD></TR></TABLE>
I know you guys are still testing and want to make sure that you release the best product possible, but you are almost at 3 years in R&D and testing. Do you have ANY idea at all when this will be released? Are you close? Are you far? Is it just a dream? I've owned a set of your rear LCA's and they are of the best quality, so i am very excited to see your front LCA's.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What applications are you doing (EG/DC or what)? And are they gonna be the forward half only like the other guys?</TD></TR></TABLE>
What he said ^^^
-Jalal

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I know you guys are still testing and want to make sure that you release the best product possible, but you are almost at 3 years in R&D and testing. Do you have ANY idea at all when this will be released? Are you close? Are you far? Is it just a dream? I've owned a set of your rear LCA's and they are of the best quality, so i am very excited to see your front LCA's.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94eg! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What applications are you doing (EG/DC or what)? And are they gonna be the forward half only like the other guys?</TD></TR></TABLE>
What he said ^^^
-Jalal
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Function7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Several prototypes have been on our test platforms for about 32 months. We will release them only when we are completely satisfied that their performance, safety etc meet our high standards, and that's about when we feel that they are good and ready for sale to the public.

-A</TD></TR></TABLE>
Quality control is a good thing, though people do get impatient.
Curious, but will these arms allow any form of adjustment, or are they purely for unsprung weight reduction?
Personally, the only reason I'd replace my DC2's front LCAs, would be for caster gain. The stock LCAs seem strong enough, have survived a little curb banging at Willow Springs just fine, and already include mounting points for the ARB. So, no real reason to replace as far as I'm concerned.
Now, sell me a set with a straight up +3* (or more) caster change, (heck, and a -1* to -2* camber change if possible) that won't tweak the inner bushings on an angle like an offset bushing in the rear section of the front LCA does, and I won't care what the price or delay to production are, you'll have at least one sale.
In fact, make me a set now, and I won't care if you call it a "beta" and don't warranty it.

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Quality control is a good thing, though people do get impatient.
Curious, but will these arms allow any form of adjustment, or are they purely for unsprung weight reduction?
Personally, the only reason I'd replace my DC2's front LCAs, would be for caster gain. The stock LCAs seem strong enough, have survived a little curb banging at Willow Springs just fine, and already include mounting points for the ARB. So, no real reason to replace as far as I'm concerned.
Now, sell me a set with a straight up +3* (or more) caster change, (heck, and a -1* to -2* camber change if possible) that won't tweak the inner bushings on an angle like an offset bushing in the rear section of the front LCA does, and I won't care what the price or delay to production are, you'll have at least one sale.
In fact, make me a set now, and I won't care if you call it a "beta" and don't warranty it.
:D I didn't know Funtion 7 was planning this. But now I'll have a problem trying to decide between the F7 and OMNI front LCAs... Will they match the rears in terms of look?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by No_Fear »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if it would be available for EK Si would be nice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Didn't the 99-00 Civic Si come from the factory with different front LCAs anyway?
Didn't the 99-00 Civic Si come from the factory with different front LCAs anyway?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TunerN00b »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Quality control is a good thing, though people do get impatient.
Curious, but will these arms allow any form of adjustment, or are they purely for unsprung weight reduction?
Personally, the only reason I'd replace my DC2's front LCAs, would be for caster gain. The stock LCAs seem strong enough, have survived a little curb banging at Willow Springs just fine, and already include mounting points for the ARB. So, no real reason to replace as far as I'm concerned.
Now, sell me a set with a straight up +3* (or more) caster change, (heck, and a -1* to -2* camber change if possible) that won't tweak the inner bushings on an angle like an offset bushing in the rear section of the front LCA does, and I won't care what the price or delay to production are, you'll have at least one sale.
In fact, make me a set now, and I won't care if you call it a "beta" and don't warranty it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It could be close - Hopefully years end. We're insanely busy these days so R&D is taking longer because we only have 24 hours a day, and we're not really in a rush to release it partly because we're still working out the legal stuff.
Our rear LCA's have seen all sorts of abuse. We've even had a guy lose a wheel and drag the our arm on the ground (the arms were fine, only scratched up at the bottom but we replaced them under warranty). The worst case was a girl who had her DC t-boned on the rear passenger side by a truck. The rear 1/4 of car was totalled but arm performed as designed, and bent as we had intended, instead of snapping (we gladly replaced that under warranty too).
Given what the arms go through, we want to be completely sure that the front arms are designed properly since they have to handle the weight of the car AND the acceleration forces that pull the car forward (and deceleration during braking). Because of these additional demands on the front arms, we are being extra super careful about the front arms, in order to make sure our customers will be able to come back and buy more stuff from us later.
I cannot comment on any of the features of our arms prior to the public release, but be assured that we don't believe in half-assing anything.
-A
Quality control is a good thing, though people do get impatient.
Curious, but will these arms allow any form of adjustment, or are they purely for unsprung weight reduction?
Personally, the only reason I'd replace my DC2's front LCAs, would be for caster gain. The stock LCAs seem strong enough, have survived a little curb banging at Willow Springs just fine, and already include mounting points for the ARB. So, no real reason to replace as far as I'm concerned.
Now, sell me a set with a straight up +3* (or more) caster change, (heck, and a -1* to -2* camber change if possible) that won't tweak the inner bushings on an angle like an offset bushing in the rear section of the front LCA does, and I won't care what the price or delay to production are, you'll have at least one sale.
In fact, make me a set now, and I won't care if you call it a "beta" and don't warranty it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It could be close - Hopefully years end. We're insanely busy these days so R&D is taking longer because we only have 24 hours a day, and we're not really in a rush to release it partly because we're still working out the legal stuff.
Our rear LCA's have seen all sorts of abuse. We've even had a guy lose a wheel and drag the our arm on the ground (the arms were fine, only scratched up at the bottom but we replaced them under warranty). The worst case was a girl who had her DC t-boned on the rear passenger side by a truck. The rear 1/4 of car was totalled but arm performed as designed, and bent as we had intended, instead of snapping (we gladly replaced that under warranty too).
Given what the arms go through, we want to be completely sure that the front arms are designed properly since they have to handle the weight of the car AND the acceleration forces that pull the car forward (and deceleration during braking). Because of these additional demands on the front arms, we are being extra super careful about the front arms, in order to make sure our customers will be able to come back and buy more stuff from us later.
I cannot comment on any of the features of our arms prior to the public release, but be assured that we don't believe in half-assing anything.
-A
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TunerN00b »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Didn't the 99-00 Civic Si come from the factory with different front LCAs anyway?</TD></TR></TABLE>
They came with a one-piece stamped steel arm instead of the cast ones like the earlier EK/EG/DC.
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Didn't the 99-00 Civic Si come from the factory with different front LCAs anyway?</TD></TR></TABLE>
They came with a one-piece stamped steel arm instead of the cast ones like the earlier EK/EG/DC.
-A
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Function7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
They came with a one-piece stamped steel arm instead of the cast ones like the earlier EK/EG/DC.
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EK Standard:
EK Si & CTR:
I'm helpin' I'm helpin'...
They came with a one-piece stamped steel arm instead of the cast ones like the earlier EK/EG/DC.
-A</TD></TR></TABLE>
EK Standard:
EK Si & CTR:
I'm helpin' I'm helpin'...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Function7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It could be close - Hopefully years end. We're insanely busy these days so R&D is taking longer because we only have 24 hours a day, and we're not really in a rush to release it partly because we're still working out the legal stuff.
Our rear LCA's have seen all sorts of abuse. We've even had a guy lose a wheel and drag the our arm on the ground (the arms were fine, only scratched up at the bottom but we replaced them under warranty). The worst case was a girl who had her DC t-boned on the rear passenger side by a truck. The rear 1/4 of car was totalled but arm performed as designed, and bent as we had intended, instead of snapping (we gladly replaced that under warranty too).
Given what the arms go through, we want to be completely sure that the front arms are designed properly since they have to handle the weight of the car AND the acceleration forces that pull the car forward (and deceleration during braking). Because of these additional demands on the front arms, we are being extra super careful about the front arms, in order to make sure our customers will be able to come back and buy more stuff from us later.
I cannot comment on any of the features of our arms prior to the public release, but be assured that we don't believe in half-assing anything.
-A</TD></TR></TABLE>
You know I really appreciate that. Its nice to see a company worried more about their repuation and quality of product than make an extra buck. Im going to be very interested in this part when you all debut it. You should make an email list so we will all know when its available. Mine is Civicman86@gmail.com
Our rear LCA's have seen all sorts of abuse. We've even had a guy lose a wheel and drag the our arm on the ground (the arms were fine, only scratched up at the bottom but we replaced them under warranty). The worst case was a girl who had her DC t-boned on the rear passenger side by a truck. The rear 1/4 of car was totalled but arm performed as designed, and bent as we had intended, instead of snapping (we gladly replaced that under warranty too).
Given what the arms go through, we want to be completely sure that the front arms are designed properly since they have to handle the weight of the car AND the acceleration forces that pull the car forward (and deceleration during braking). Because of these additional demands on the front arms, we are being extra super careful about the front arms, in order to make sure our customers will be able to come back and buy more stuff from us later.
I cannot comment on any of the features of our arms prior to the public release, but be assured that we don't believe in half-assing anything.
-A</TD></TR></TABLE>
You know I really appreciate that. Its nice to see a company worried more about their repuation and quality of product than make an extra buck. Im going to be very interested in this part when you all debut it. You should make an email list so we will all know when its available. Mine is Civicman86@gmail.com
Can't wait for the fronts. The guys I know running the rears couldn't be more happy. I'll be installing my rears when I get back from VIR in about a week, along with a new set of coil overs and the ASR 32mm rear sway. Track testing, pictures and thoughts will come shortly after.
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You know I really appreciate that. Its nice to see a company worried more about their repuation and quality of product than make an extra buck. Im going to be very interested in this part when you all debut it. You should make an email list so we will all know when its available. Mine is Civicman86@gmail.com
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Or just post here!
You know I really appreciate that. Its nice to see a company worried more about their repuation and quality of product than make an extra buck. Im going to be very interested in this part when you all debut it. You should make an email list so we will all know when its available. Mine is Civicman86@gmail.com
</TD></TR></TABLE>Or just post here!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TunerN00b »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Didn't the 99-00 Civic Si come from the factory with different front LCAs anyway?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes it has,but it would be nice if they make it available also for Si and R EKs
Didn't the 99-00 Civic Si come from the factory with different front LCAs anyway?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes it has,but it would be nice if they make it available also for Si and R EKs
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by No_Fear »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yes it has,but it would be nice if they make it available also for Si and R EKs</TD></TR></TABLE>
Aside from material and swaybar endlink orientation, the Si LCAs should be functionally the same shape (length and mounting locations), so you should be able to use aftermarket LCAs designed for the non-Si with a non-Si endlink.
I suppose if the bushings are different, you'd have to use non-Si bushings as well. Maybe someone else knows about that...
yes it has,but it would be nice if they make it available also for Si and R EKs</TD></TR></TABLE>
Aside from material and swaybar endlink orientation, the Si LCAs should be functionally the same shape (length and mounting locations), so you should be able to use aftermarket LCAs designed for the non-Si with a non-Si endlink.
I suppose if the bushings are different, you'd have to use non-Si bushings as well. Maybe someone else knows about that...
I now know why function7 has a lifetime warranty on their products because it takes a lifetime to get ahold of anyone at function7 or for them to return your emails about a problem product that I have.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crexer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I now know why function7 has a lifetime warranty on their products because it takes a lifetime to get ahold of anyone at function7 or for them to return your emails about a problem product that I have.
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Indeed. I emailed several times and called once or twice and spoke with the owner (forgot his name) and he told me to email him again about my issue. Months have gone by and I haven't heard a thing...
</TD></TR></TABLE>Indeed. I emailed several times and called once or twice and spoke with the owner (forgot his name) and he told me to email him again about my issue. Months have gone by and I haven't heard a thing...





