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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 12:50 AM
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so i just installed my function & form type 1 coilovers onto my 91 civic. the front's are still too high for my taste. i couldnt make it any lower so here's a pic of the coilovers on its lowest setting (i think). can all the other f&f users tell me if this is the lowest it can go. thanks.



oh and i notice my passenger side is higher than my left too. it's kinda been like that. any ideas? i have a bad axle, could that be a problem? thanks guys!
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 05:05 AM
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For the coilover to be as low as it can go the upper two perches (red in your pic) should be hard against the lower perch.
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 05:10 AM
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make sure the strut (silver part with the threads) is all the way down in the lower housing of the coilover of you will go through struts every few months from having your car that low. maybe get some top hats also. and last time i checked, function was all out of the type 1 replacement struts. the red perches can go down another inch it looks like. i measured my coilovers during install to make sure ride height was even all around.
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 06:30 AM
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I thought that the top perches on full bodied coilovers were never supposed to be adjusted and that the spring wouldnt seat properly if they were. Thus the shock body height adjustment.
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 06:31 AM
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i thought u not suppose to mess with the red perches because the preload is already set so if you do, wouldnt the preload be mess up.. im not sure someone correct me if im wrong.
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 08:01 AM
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i thought u not suppose to mess with the red perches because the preload is already set so if you do, wouldnt the preload be mess up.. im not sure someone correct me if im wrong.
he isnt saying to loosen the red perches, but as you turn the coilover down the whole spring and red perch moves down, closer to the gold perch. preload is not affected. so there is room to go lower.
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickstar
so i just installed my function & form type 1 coilovers onto my 91 civic. the front's are still too high for my taste. i couldnt make it any lower so here's a pic of the coilovers on its lowest setting (i think). can all the other f&f users tell me if this is the lowest it can go. thanks.



oh and i notice my passenger side is higher than my left too. it's kinda been like that. any ideas? i have a bad axle, could that be a problem? thanks guys!
You still have like an inch left if you lower those two red perches, but it will mess up your preload. It will make your car bouncyer.
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 02:07 PM
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dam my type 1s are hella bouncy
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 07:42 PM
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dam my type 1s are hella bouncy
Really? Did you mess with the preload?
Old Jun 11, 2009 | 08:40 PM
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yeah i was thinking it could go lower but for some reason it just doesnt turn anymore. i can turn it the other way to raise it, but it wont go any lower than that. and this is how it was out of the box. somewhere on the little instruction guide said that all the coilovers were set to the lowest setting already. so yeah any more advice? thanks guys
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 04:19 AM
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i havent touched the 2 red ring perches

i twisted the bottom coilover shock bit
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by patrickstar
yeah i was thinking it could go lower but for some reason it just doesnt turn anymore. i can turn it the other way to raise it, but it wont go any lower than that. and this is how it was out of the box. somewhere on the little instruction guide said that all the coilovers were set to the lowest setting already. so yeah any more advice? thanks guys
in that case it looks like you will need to move the red perches then, if you want to go lower. only other thing i could think of would be to see if f&f has different springs you could swap. shorter springs would allow more drop
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 04:26 AM
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the lower you go the less travel the coilover will have
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 06:21 AM
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what was the spring rate on those? mine was 10k in the front and 6k in the back i believe. i didnt put mine on yet. hopefully it not bouncy.. someone should put a tread how to install them correctly lol
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by kulo
the lower you go the less travel the coilover will have
im pretty sure the F&Fs have the thing where you can just move the shock body at the bottom up so that the shock still has full travel and it doesnt mess up the preload
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by teggy_617
what was the spring rate on those? mine was 10k in the front and 6k in the back i believe. i didnt put mine on yet. hopefully it not bouncy.. someone should put a tread how to install them correctly lol
not sure about the type 1 but the type 2 is 10k front 8k rear. "bouncy" is a loose term. when i think bouncy i think cut springs and crappy oem shocks. now if you say "stiff" thats a bit different because 10k spring rates are damn stiff on the street. if thats not your cup of tea then you need to get softer springs, tein comes to mind. they are much more comfortable

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im pretty sure the F&Fs have the thing where you can just move the shock body at the bottom up so that the shock still has full travel and it doesnt mess up the preload
yes thats true but the OP has stated he maxed out the shock body adjustment. so to go lower he need to change the preload perches and sacrifice that feature.
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by teggy_617
what was the spring rate on those? mine was 10k in the front and 6k in the back i believe. i didnt put mine on yet. hopefully it not bouncy.. someone should put a tread how to install them correctly lol
Most of them are 10k/6k.

You need to brake apart the two red perches if you want to get any lower.
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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i have
9k F
6k R
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 01:52 PM
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Default Re: function & form can it go any lower?

yeah mine are 10k front and 6k in the back. its a very comfortable ride even though they are at a pretty low setting. yeah the preload stays the same as long as you dont touch the red perches.

so yoontim23, you say i need to break the two perches apart? that would mess up the preload though right? so the only way to lower these more would be to sacrifice preload?

and does anyone know if a bad axle can affect ride height cus my front passenger side is higher. thanks guys
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 02:04 PM
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What if you messed with the preload? I bought my type 2's used, and the previous owner had loosened all of the perches, presumably when he cleaned the coilovers before he shipped them.

Is there a particular number of turns the top perches have to be to reach the intended amount of preload?
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by evosix
What if you messed with the preload? I bought my type 2's used, and the previous owner had loosened all of the perches, presumably when he cleaned the coilovers before he shipped them.

Is there a particular number of turns the top perches have to be to reach the intended amount of preload?
with my omni's i was told to move the preload perches up until it just touches the spring, then lock them in place and never touch them again
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 02:29 PM
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Preload can be easily set by the user, here's a vid from skunk2. Same concept with all true full coilovers on the market.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHLWt...97834&index=10
Old Jun 12, 2009 | 03:54 PM
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^thanks!
Old Jun 14, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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so with the picture i first posted, i cannot lower the car any lower unless i mess up the preload and spin the spring perches down right? other than that, thats lowest?
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Originally Posted by patrickstar
so with the picture i first posted, i cannot lower the car any lower unless i mess up the preload and spin the spring perches down right? other than that, thats lowest?
Yes, you are out of adjustment my friend. If you have shortened the shock as much as you can using the lower mount, then all you have left is the adjustment on the spring. You will have to remove the preload on the spring to get anymore lowering adjustment.



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