Hey, anyone know the deal with changing the trainny fluids on a '00 civic lx? In the chiltons it just says to remove the drain plug and reinstall plug and add fluids. What about the filter? Does this have to be changed? I thought so.

Anyone know the quick steps to do this?

Thank You,
Jay

 

If you have a manual transmission there isn't any filter to change. Only automatics have filters.

 

Yea, sorry. I should have been more specific. I have an Auto Tran. How do I do this? big job? My chiltons forgot to INCLUDE that in there...just says to drain it from the plug and replug. Any pointers?

Thanks again!

 

hmm never seen one but anytime i find something not in my manual i just go to honda dealer and have them print the diagram pic and look at that. should show how it bolts on and everything and you'll have it for future reference

 

ahh hell tell them to copy the damn page out of the manual should be no problem at all to copy it for free. and if so tell them your never ever buying a car from them again.

 

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Thanks again!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Normally when you change your AT fluid you have to drop the transmission oil pan because there's no drain bolt in it like an engine oil pan. When you drop the pan you'll see a mesh screen (filter) stuck to the tranny (can't miss it) just pull it off and snap the new one up in its place. Bolt up the pan with a new gasket on it and make sure you torque them to the proper specs in THE PROPER ORDER, to prevent leaks. Pour in about 1L or quart of ATF through the dipstick hole and then start the car and let it idle in park. keep adding fluid to the tranny until it comes up to the proper range indicated on the dipstick. Take the car for a short drive around the block or something and then recheck the level making sure the car is idling in park. Add as needed after that. It's a pretty easy job for the most part.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00Red_SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Normally when you change your AT fluid you have to drop the transmission oil pan because there's no drain bolt in it like an engine oil pan. When you drop the pan you'll see a mesh screen (filter) stuck to the tranny (can't miss it) just pull it off and snap the new one up in its place. Bolt up the pan with a new gasket on it and make sure you torque them to the proper specs in THE PROPER ORDER, to prevent leaks. Pour in about 1L or quart of ATF through the dipstick hole and then start the car and let it idle in park. keep adding fluid to the tranny until it comes up to the proper range indicated on the dipstick. Take the car for a short drive around the block or something and then recheck the level making sure the car is idling in park. Add as needed after that. It's a pretty easy job for the most part.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just did this not a month ago. I have a 2000 LX auto. The drain port is on the passenger side of the tranny at the bottom. You can access it though the wheel well without taking off anyting. Use a 3/8 drive socket to take the plug out. Fill through the dip stick hole. There may be an internal screen, but if there is a filter I am not aware of it. As far as I know the tranny has no filter.

You certainly do not need to disassebmle the tranny to change the fluid.

 

Whoa, dude, you cant just do that to a automatic tranny. You have to flush it, you need a pump. Isn't like most of the fluid in the torque converter? You need a pump, then flush it, then run a cleaner through it to remove the old stuff so it doesnt shallac onto it, or whatever its called. Cause its 2.9 Quarts to change, and when you drain it all, its 6.2 Qts (at overhaul). Just some input.

 

 

WHHHHhhoooa, pump? Cleaner? Ok, that sounds somewhat nutty to me! lol No offense, I never seen that done. Ive changed my tranny fluid before plenty of times, but never heard of that way! Have you ever done this to yours?

I believe is 00Red is right. But, seriously. Do I need to drop the pan? I checkd the fluid, its MINT! But Im at 25K since I got the car tranny fluids last changed, and wanna swap it out for new fluids. Stupid questions, but this is my first honda.

Anyway, anybody else certain on the filter?

 

is there a way to check your tranny fluid on a MT

 

i also have question how about MT ??? do i need to use pump ? i know firestones did that to my brother truck fluish the brake fluid and tranny .. is AT truck ..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redline96LX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whoa, dude, you cant just do that to a automatic tranny. You have to flush it, you need a pump. Isn't like most of the fluid in the torque converter? You need a pump, then flush it, then run a cleaner through it to remove the old stuff so it doesnt shallac onto it, or whatever its called. Cause its 2.9 Quarts to change, and when you drain it all, its 6.2 Qts (at overhaul). Just some input.</TD></TR></TABLE>

A drain and fill will get out a little less than half the fluid because, as you state, most of the fluid is up in the tranny. There are places that will do a flush by hooking it up to a machine that will pump fluid though and get it all out. It is a little expensive and probably better for the tranny.

With that said, before I did my tranny last month I had the same question. The owner's and the service manual both say that a drain and fill is all that is needed at 30k mi intervals. I called several Honda dealerships and none of them did a flush, just a drain and fill (they didn't even have the machine to do the flush). I even started a thread dealing specifically with this question.

Bottom line was if you want to spend the money and do the flush there is nothing wrong with that, but if you keep up with the regular maintainence then a drain and fill will provide all the benefit that Honda says you can get.

 

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A manual transmission doesn't need a pump to change/flush the oil out of it. All you need to do is remove the drain bolt in the transmission and let the oil out, then reinstall the bolt. Remove the transmission oil inspection/refill bolt which is a couple inches or so above the drain bolt and refill it with tranny fluid till it starts to come out of the hole. Check your owners manual or Helms manual, it will show you how to do it properly if you're not sure.

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see what I wrote above and check your manual.

 

Thanks guys! Now for my last 2 questions. What ATF fluids are you guys suggesting. I called honda for what their using, and their just telling me Dexron III. Anybody have anything good to say about synthetic valvoline blends?

Also, what kind of nut is on the trainny, and I going to need a socket or torque wrench? Reason I ask is cuz I just broke mine , So im going to buy some new tools this week!

Thanks Again!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jaycapz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks guys! Now for my last 2 questions. What ATF fluids are you guys suggesting. I called honda for what their using, and their just telling me Dexron III. Anybody have anything good to say about synthetic valvoline blends?

Also, what kind of nut is on the trainny, and I going to need a socket or torque wrench? Reason I ask is cuz I just broke mine , So im going to buy some new tools this week!

Thanks Again!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Just use what Honda recommends.

 

http://www.c-speedracing.com/h...d.php

just look here they got pics...

 

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What I have read in the Honda manuals for the D series auto states that Dexron ATF can only be used temporarily in an emergency situation and that only Genuine Honda ATF is what they recommend. The local dealer charges about $4/quart. In my opinion, $12 of maintenance every 30k mi is worth the expense.

EDIT: Fixed typo.


Modified by mct121 at 9:45 PM 9/23/2004

 

Thanks everyone. Did the trainny fluid change today, got the 3 qt.s from honda. Much better, there was a nutz amount of particle/metal build up on the magnet.