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Old Dec 10, 2001 | 05:48 PM
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sup fellow accord drivers... well was in a bind on whether to get an h22(like everyone else) or an h23 and a turbo.... i decided after much contemplation that i'd get the h23 w/ a turbo or nitrous set up... how much boost can it withold?... how many shots??... eventually if i get tired of the boost and want the stability of an all motor car... i'd then get the h22... but until then... 2.3l turbo (comments welcome)

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Old Dec 10, 2001 | 05:52 PM
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Dude you are the man!!!! I love you for your great decision making skills. I've been trying to get more and more people into the h23 w/ turbo setup but many laugh. I applaud your taste bro, good choice

Edit: Shot(recommend not over 75) PSI(recommend not over 10 w/ stock internals)


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Old Dec 10, 2001 | 06:34 PM
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what's wrong with H22 and turbo????
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Old Dec 10, 2001 | 07:26 PM
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well personally for me its the price... during my decision making it was either a h22 all motor... or non-vtec forced induction... at first i was leaning toward squeezing after reading about that 4th genner... h23 @ 80 shot running 13's auto.... that was amazing... but ultimately i've been following dlb1994 h23 custom turbo squeezing... low 13's.... with a h22 all motor i'll probably be just as fast if not faster as 5th generation ludes..... so for me... f/i is the way to go.....
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Old Dec 10, 2001 | 07:34 PM
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Agreed, I'm going to ship you a beer ok man?
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Old Dec 10, 2001 | 08:58 PM
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please give us a call on the turbo kit. we're offering Drag gen 3 kit for a really good price right now. please email me or give me a call at my office.
thank you
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Old Dec 10, 2001 | 09:00 PM
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The H23 is a good motor. Not as good as the H22, but it has a very broad powerband for a honda 4 cylinder. I know a guy who had the basic bolt ons and cams in his H23. He sprayed an 80 shot and ran 13.0. Not on slicks either.
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Old Dec 10, 2001 | 11:17 PM
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whats the h23?....and whats the diference in that and the f23?...can they use the same turbo manifolds? what other parts can be interchangable?
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 07:07 AM
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so whats wrong with sprayin on a h22a?whouldnt that be faster than the h23?
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 07:48 AM
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whats the h23?....and whats the diference in that and the f23?...can they use the same turbo manifolds? what other parts can be interchangable?
The H23 is a DOHC non-VTEC motor. It was found in the non-VTEC preludes. It has 160hp. No, the parts will not interchange. Sorry.
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 04:13 PM
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Whats the price difference between a low milage f and h motor, I would like to have some boost soon, but money is an issue. I have had no luck finding parts for my f22a. Forcedaccord,others,how much boost are you running? stock internals?
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 04:26 PM
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my guess would be that the h23 has much more potential than the h22. The biggest thing (besides the slightly larger displacement) is that the construction of the blocks are totaly different. The h22 is the normal set up where the water jacket surrounds the cylinders entirely. The h23 is a totally different setup where it has ported type coolant passages, like most normal blocks out there. I would think that the h23 block would be much stronger in the long run when boosting or simply building a tight motor. I was just wondering if anyone else has taken this into consideration when choosing motors...i have an h23 at the moment and am searching for an h22 vtec head to top it with...(best of both worlds!). I am familuar in some ways with the frankenstien, i just wonder why not many poeple have done it.....
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Old Dec 11, 2001 | 08:58 PM
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Default Re: decision set... hold on h22 (gearhead313)

thanks for all the replies guys... it really makes me feel i've made a good decision... prodigy... when i find the right h23 and put it in... i'll definately give you a call for the turbo... alright... take it easy my friends... peace
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 04:13 AM
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hey man how hard would this set up be? and would it be costly, because money is a major factor when i get my future car, thanks man
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 12:47 PM
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The H23 is a good motor, and it will definitly take a turbo better than the H22. VTEC, while I'm not knocking it- I loved it on my EG Civic, is not everything. Check out this months SCC. The article called Tyranosaurus Lex, about a Lexus IS300 touring car, is a pretty good example. This motor was stripped of it's VVTL-i system (Toyota's version of VTEC) because they said that it wasn't doing anything for the car..........Just something to think about.
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Old Dec 12, 2001 | 01:52 PM
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Most high horsepower boosted applications have no variable valve timing. Papadakis' civic has no vtec. Thats not a secret. But in a street car it is nice to have the split personality.
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Old Dec 13, 2001 | 09:27 AM
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I am new to this board and I am sure everyone on here has answered my question a milion times, but I would appreciate a little help!! I have a 98 accord coupe 2.3ltr. 4 cyl. I am in the process of deciding if I am going to turbo the motor as is, or do a swap and then do a turbo. I know there are many differing opinions on Vtec and I wouldn't mind hearing some of those!! Personally I like it and don't know if I should go with the H23 and give up the Vtec just to get DOHC. Also, if I go with H23 and put the H22 head on it, how much will all that cost? How much is just the swap going to be? Will I need more than just the motor? Also, if I put the turbo on the car as is, how much boost would be a safe amount? I would appreciate some help. Thanks

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Old Dec 13, 2001 | 12:46 PM
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considering you have emissions where you live... you will not be able to put an h23 engine in your car, a 98 correct?... the h23 was only in production in 4th gen ludes up until 1996 inclusive... all lude engines after that are the h22 vtec... just trying to drop some info for you.... aiite peace....
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Old Dec 13, 2001 | 12:56 PM
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Yeah, it is a 98. I appreciate any info. I get, I had heard that about the H23 before, but I had also heard that it was possible to do it. What are some prices for the H22 swap and will I need to replace the transmission and everything too? Also, will my intake and and exhaust need to be replaced? Thanks for any replies.
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Old Dec 13, 2001 | 01:00 PM
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actually, if anyone is interested, i have an h23 that i would get rid off really cheap. The only thing is that it is down to the bare block and needs a crank. If anyone is up to the prodject, i would dump it....let me know!
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Old Dec 14, 2001 | 10:59 AM
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just for reference... what kind of times can i expect at 6 psi, t3/t4....... or 75 shot on my 96 accord coupe?
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