just wondering if a 8 inch wide rim would be too much for a integra? thanks

 

you can make anything fit, as long as the offset is right.

 

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exactly...i'm positive that there are people running 8 inch wide rims on DCs.

 

my buddy has a 16X9 inch rim on his s2k. 65+ off set. not a DC2 but you get the idea.

Note: it doesnt even rub at full lock.

 

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The basic answer is yes, they're too big (unless you're willing to do more than just buy wheels).

At the track, I use 15x7 +38 with RA1 205's, and it requires rolling the driver side rear. You can fit 225-45 on these same wheels if you're willing to roll both fenders.

According to RJ, 15x8 +42 will work with 205's, providing you're willing to roll both rear fenders to get the extra rubber stretch in there.

 

Todd00 was running 15x8's....... they're not too big.

What the hell does 16x9's on an S2k have to do with this discussion anyways?

 

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Do you know what offset?

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Nothing. You know how it is: Whatever people know, they must share.

 

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He told me a +40-42 will work. I may try it if I come across some 15x8's that dont cost more than a new engine.

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My cat's breath smells like cat food.

 

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My cat's breath smells like cat food.</TD></TR></TABLE>

-Miss Hoover, my worm crawled in my mouth and I ate it. Can I have a new one?
-No Ralph, just put your head down and go to sleep...
-Sleep, that's where I'm a viking!!

 

I have a set of 15x8 +45 and 16x8 +38 and they both fit fine with proper fender rolling.

The +45 is a little too far in, but nothing that couldn't be fixed with a small spacer or slight modification of the rear UCA.

Everyone is afraid to think outside of the box sometimes...

 

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You just failed in your duty to get the Honda Tech Bandwagon rolling, that's all!!

 

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You just failed in your duty to get the Honda Tech Bandwagon rolling, that's all!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, my fault. I should stop trying to upset the H-T ITR forum applecart



What most upsets me is that everyone is afraid to try new things to make the car handle better and such, or if they are they aren't sharing.

 

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LOL... I understand.

I think I'm about at the end of my rope w/my current suspension, and I'm about to make a pretty radical change...but I don't feel especially compelled to discuss it yet because too many people comment w/out knowing what they're talking about.

Better to do it, learn for myself, and then report back in relevant threads.

 

hmmm
i ve 8 x 17 with 205-40-17 on till my jdm wheels arrive.

offset is 18
no problems car is lowered with ssr suspension.

 

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AWD????

 

rwd would be perfect for the R.....

i want that...

 

I sleep in a drawer!

 

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Nothing. You know how it is: Whatever people know, they must share.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm going to share: Some people say cucumber tastes better pickled!

 

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I'm going to share: Some people say cucumber tastes better pickled!</TD></TR></TABLE>

this city has big buildings.. i like food. bye..

 

Exactly my point. Too many BS posts and no one does anything to take care of them.

Maybe I'm missing the humor behind "my dog smells like a dog" or whatever, but I'm being somewhat serious and all I see in return is completely pointless posts, aimed at trashing the thread.

I can understand on some threads where the poster is a complete moron (or a moronic post), but not on this one.

 

Let's review this thread.

'You can fit any rim you want as long as the offset is ok and you're willing to deal with rolling fenders or more extensive bodywork'

'I have a big change in suspension forthcoming but im not going to talk about it because i dont want to deal with people who might not know what they are talking about'

'this forum sucks because they aren't willing to try new things that are outside the box to make their car handle better'

and a little humor. Which is, imo, what makes this site tollerable.

Mostly negativity at others on this site. No wonder they don't respond.

What else is there really to talk about?
A) no one knows what they are talking about according to multiple sources
B) VERY few people have anything bigger than 7.5" wide rim
C) VERY few people do extensive bodywork or custom fabrication on here... mostly because of money, time, knowledge, effort.

Only thing left to talk about on this, since there are few examples peope have to show off, is that worrying about 8+" rim is folly. The best way to improve the suspension is first to use it to its fullest and understand WHY changing camber/height/toe/caster do the things they do. And more importantly, to learn to drive REALLY freaking well.

Sure its 'nice' to have extra wide tires. I don't think it improves the suspension. It improves the grip, sure.

I think its been proven that without widening the track (spacers or smaller offset or both), you are going to rub mightily on the trailing arm and in the fenderwells. Seems to me that race teams stick with 7/7.5" rims and spend more time worrying about the suspension to get things 'sorted out' and handling better.

There are much more important things than super wide rims, this is why people don't spend much time trying to get super crafty. That's my take, welcomed or not.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a set of 15x8 +45 and 16x8 +38 and they both fit fine with proper fender rolling.

The +45 is a little too far in, but nothing that couldn't be fixed with a small spacer or slight modification of the rear UCA.

Everyone is afraid to think outside of the box sometimes...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Other than the fact that 15x8's will fit, or be made to fit.

Should a DC2 chassis use, or does a DC2 chassis need 15x8's?

Can you give us some Pro's and Con's pertaining to your setup ?

I have always wanted to get SSR Comp's in 15x7.5, but i have never been sure of the negatives or positives associated with wheels of that width.

 

Other than fitment issues, what else would be a negative to a wide rim? Wider rim = better contact patch = better "feel" = more grip. Run a 205 tire on a 6" rim then a 7.5" rim and tell me what you experience, in both lap times and car/handling feel and ability.

As far as this thread, folks seem to be complacant with a 7" rim and the normal ITR setup everyone recommends for street and/or track use. Past that, no one takes anything any further.

Go on a Subaru forum and read how those guys have developed the suspension on the WRX. There are a lot of folks doing a lot of information sharing and they've come to a conclusion on how to make the car rip, both for autox and for track use. All I'm saying is that it would be nice if folks would experiment on their own/with others and share what they have learned, and I think George is saying the same thing.

"I love to pet my monkey" is a cop-out I am not understanding. Funny I guess, but it adds nothing to a thread that is trying to say something positive or negative to the state of the users and/or board.

 

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Because 7" wheels are easy to find, and they fit without fender rolling or trailing arm grinding.

Sometimes the easy route is good... just depends on what you want out of the car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Run a 205 tire on a 6" rim then a 7.5" rim and tell me what you experience, in both lap times and car/handling feel and ability.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why don't you tell us what you have found? I dont see any data logging, times, anything. Just subjective opions from people.

IMO, there are more important things than rim width. Many more important things. Yes its important, but HOW important? I'd rather spend time figuring out how much camber to run, what ride height, what springs, cornerweighting, saving weight, sway bars, toe, etc. Keeping the tires happy and working as effectively as possible is most people's worry.

To what extent is it considered 'worthwhile' to try to shoehorn a giant tire and wide rim in such a small place? Raising the ride height, slapping on big spacers, rolling fenders, at what cost? widening the track effectively change the wheel rate. That's a big deal. It's not just as simple as 'wider is better', is it? It cannot be.