For my 1990 CRX HF. I like the idea of having loads of torque (the B20) but I also like the idea of having 160Hp out of the B16. Im also over on Sh5 forums and asked the same question. But I like more than one opinion on things so I figured id ask here too. Right now I can get the B16A out of a 88-92 SiRI for $599 or I can get the B20B out of a 96-98 CR-V for $749. Dilemmas plague my existence. Any inof or opinions would be great.

 

as a totaly new idea you should try a b20 with a b16 head...

 

as a totaly new idea you should try a b20 with a b16 head...

 

How expensive?

 

Aight, thanks but I would go with GSR block with B16 head

 

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Yea thats a good set-up bro "Poor Mans Type-R" </TD></TR></TABLE>

The only problem here is that this setup is not as cheap as the whole 'poor man's' title suggests. In fact, a P72 block is more expensive than a P3G (B20) block! As for B16A vs (non-VTEC) B20, power output is actually quite similar between the two. If torque is what you want, then by al means go non-VTEC B20. You might be disappointed if you go LS instead of B16A. But you WON'T be disappointed if you go B20.

 

don't go b16 head gsr block, it's nothing like a type r unless you change the piston other wise the engine will be like a b16.

 

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Whaaaa....

hahahaha! Yeah right! It's still a 1.8! Granted, it's lost a bit of compression due to the combustion chamber style, but it's still a 1.8! I repeat, still a 1.8! It has torque, and will make more power than a B16.

 

does anyone make an ecu for a non-vtec b20? might as well do a b18b if ur not going to run vtec.

i'd like a cr-vtec b22...

 

He probably made a mistake

 

b22=b20 bored out to 2.2l.

 

yes it is but i put the 2 rather then the 0 to say 2.2l rather then 2.0l. i didnt want to say a b20 bored to 2.2l but i guess now i have.

 

geez just build a damn motor,get what you can for the money that you have and do whatever you want with it,get the parts you wanna buy,and work on your car cause it makes you happy and its something you like to do,not cause everyone else is doing it or "its the cool thing to do"

 

Which has better torque? b20 or b18c (11.5:1 cr) resleeved to 85 mm w/pr3 head.

 

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Yeah, I hear Honda makes a good ecu for that application.

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I would think the 85mm B18 would have more torque...

 

who in the hell is going to put a crv ecu into a civic? you would have to re-pin just about everything...

 

a non vtec b20 if built right would have a pretty nice power band though...

 

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I gravely disagree with this statement. I personally went from a B18B to a non-VTEC B20. And let me tell you, the difference is not at all subtle. A non-VTEC B20 is better than a straight LS in every way a motor can be better.

 

would you car to elaborate on that a lot more please?

 

how much power can an na non vtec b20 make?

 

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Simply put, the B20 puts out more power throughout the entire rev range. Especially in the low end. The torque curve of the B20 is more flat throughout the rev range whereas the B18B produces less low end torque and only really starts to build torque at around 3000-4000RPM. And while the B18B feels limp even in a light Civic with an LS transmission, the B20 pulls those relatively tall gears no problem. The bottom line: never shrug off the difference between an LS and non-VTEC B20! If you ever drive a Civic with even a non-VTEC B20, you will be wondering what all those people who call the LS 'torquey' are talking about.

 

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Thats expensive too build...</TD></TR></TABLE>

bull **** ive spent 5200.00 including a brand new turbo kit and im running 10.90s all day so you tell me how thats too expensive

490 horse 440 lbs of torque

 

wouldn't having vtec be so much better though? if i had the money I'd have a vtec b20 with 11:1 compression.