Hp limits of a stock bottom end d16a6

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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 06:01 AM
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Default Hp limits of a stock bottom end d16a6

what are the hp limits of the d16a6 with stock rods and pistons?

does anyone know this?
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 09:14 AM
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I've heard that the rods in a d16a6 will only hold about 210 hp before snapping in half.
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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 10:48 AM
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d16 rods are all the same, and one person pulled 302whp on a d16z6
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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so i can push a 100 shot through the motor if i tune it
?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by krustindumm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">d16 rods are all the same, and one person pulled 302whp on a d16z6</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah for probably like 30 seconds...i'm thinking 200whp would be limit and i would be extremely afraid at that point.

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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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100 shot.. hahahaha

im having a hard time not melting valves and burning pistons on 100 shot.. not to mention the risk of throwing rods.. lol
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:03 PM
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you know technically from this long LONG article i read you can run like 400 hp on a D series engine, but the timing, management and everything has to be perfect. Because according to the man who wrote it the whole reason why rods or anything else snaps or whatever its because the engine becomes unstable and has detonation. causing pressure in the wrong direction at the wrong time and it breaks something.

But thats kinda iffy being as that the D series rods are like the thickness as a finger, and i've seen too many pics on here of them snapped and put through the block. So i'd say replace them if you plan on a shot that big.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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yeah rods aren't THAT expensive...less than the nit kit i bet...better safe then sorry!!!

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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 08:50 AM
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screw it i am going to run a 100 shot on this motor until it blows
then off with the turbo ls motor

i just hate to replace something if it runs good
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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200-220who RELIABLY.

any more and u start getting into tuning problems. the rods/ring lands will snap at the slightest hint of knock.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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I know it's prob'ly been covered a few hunnerd times, but how 'bout a fitty shot on a Z5?
Or if that's a no-go, exactly how much would ya need to upgrade to run it "safe 'n reliable" not that it ever will be, y'know?
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mr_valentino20032000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you know technically from this long LONG article i read you can run like 400 hp on a D series engine, but the timing, management and everything has to be perfect. Because according to the man who wrote it the whole reason why rods or anything else snaps or whatever its because the engine becomes unstable and has detonation. causing pressure in the wrong direction at the wrong time and it breaks something.

But thats kinda iffy being as that the D series rods are like the thickness as a finger, and i've seen too many pics on here of them snapped and put through the block. So i'd say replace them if you plan on a shot that big. </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats why spoon motors are nice. reliable power because of it being a balanced motor with attention payed towards every component. i think you could get 200whp all motor non-vtec. just gotta do it right
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slowsohccivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">screw it i am going to run a 100 shot on this motor until it blows</TD></TR></TABLE>

good luck.. hahah.. i give it 3 pulls.. and its lights out.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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sorry to jack thread....but while where on the piston topic,management..etc topic i was wondering what you think needs to be for a 6-7 psi turbo with a 55 shot??
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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i'm not 100% sure about this but i understand the concepts of turbo and nitrous and all that jaz.

The whole idea of turbo. supercharger is fitting more fuel and air into the same amount of space. So you'd need some good engine management for just the turbo.

Now nitrous is a whole diffrent thing. the air that we and our cars for that matter breath has 17% (i'm almost sure that the #) pure oxygen. Nitrous has 23% oxygen (once again i'm not 100% sure on that #, but its close enough to get the point across) Now, the more pure oxygen the easier it burns in the engine. BUT..and this is very important, you don't want it to run lean, as where there is more oxygen than fuel, and it has the same effect as a cutting torch on your pistons.

Keeping all this in mind if you want to you can run "NOS" and turbo, but to do it right and make your engine last you need an awesome fuel management because with out enough fuel you'll ruin you engine fast.
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