JDM 4-2-1 header... HUH?
i've been playing around again with some headers just wanted to share some pics with you guys...




i got some dyno results too post it up later..
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i got some dyno results too post it up later..
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So is this basically a JDM ITR header that has been converted into a long-tube 4-2-1? If so, would it be cheaper than a complete custom long tube?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StorminMatt »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So is this basically a JDM ITR header that has been converted into a long-tube 4-2-1? If so, would it be cheaper than a complete custom long tube?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah its alot cheaper..
here is a run log compared to a stock JDM 4-1
test engine: OEM type R piston with a 89 stroke LS crank head work/stage 2 cams type R intake manifold and a velocity stack intake...

Im actually going to test a modified DC 4-1 header soon..i think it will work alot better then the ITR from the bigger primary tubing...
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yeah its alot cheaper..
here is a run log compared to a stock JDM 4-1
test engine: OEM type R piston with a 89 stroke LS crank head work/stage 2 cams type R intake manifold and a velocity stack intake...

Im actually going to test a modified DC 4-1 header soon..i think it will work alot better then the ITR from the bigger primary tubing...
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Looks nice. I have a couple quick questions though, will the stock lower heatshield/skidplate still be able to be used? Is this something you will be offering to customers or is it just for testing?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice4life »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you run the dyno with open header?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah both runs were ran with open header.. we tuned the 4-1 and all we did was add fuel pressure with the modified 4-2-1 JDM header..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice4life »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks nice. I have a couple quick questions though, will the stock lower heatshield/skidplate still be able to be used? Is this something you will be offering to customers or is it just for testing?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The lower heat shield will not fit.. but the upper heat shield will fit fine.. ground clearence is the same to a stock JDM type R. This is something im looking into offering for my customers as an alternative to doing complete custom header the reason is i know there is alot of guys out there that are happy with making 210-220 and i know this type of set up will support it with no problem...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice4life »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and this is how much?
and any comparisons to one of your full custom headers?
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I haven't been able to do that yet... For sure i know the limitation of this header is caped at 215-220hp.. if it was a modded DC-4-1 it know it could go a little further..Then the 2 step custom ones will always make more power because it taylored to the motor...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice4life »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much would you sell that header for?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I actually have 2 of these one without a meg and this one... give me a call at the shop ill fill you in..
yeah both runs were ran with open header.. we tuned the 4-1 and all we did was add fuel pressure with the modified 4-2-1 JDM header..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice4life »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks nice. I have a couple quick questions though, will the stock lower heatshield/skidplate still be able to be used? Is this something you will be offering to customers or is it just for testing?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The lower heat shield will not fit.. but the upper heat shield will fit fine.. ground clearence is the same to a stock JDM type R. This is something im looking into offering for my customers as an alternative to doing complete custom header the reason is i know there is alot of guys out there that are happy with making 210-220 and i know this type of set up will support it with no problem...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice4life »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and this is how much?
and any comparisons to one of your full custom headers?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
I haven't been able to do that yet... For sure i know the limitation of this header is caped at 215-220hp.. if it was a modded DC-4-1 it know it could go a little further..Then the 2 step custom ones will always make more power because it taylored to the motor...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice4life »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much would you sell that header for?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I actually have 2 of these one without a meg and this one... give me a call at the shop ill fill you in..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CHEETAH »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">very cool, what size merge collector, maintained 2.5" ?
thanks
greg</TD></TR></TABLE>
no the collector throat is only at 2 1/4 and the megaphone is welded right on that...for a street setup it would have a transition that will go to a 2 1/2 and have a 2 bolt flange.welded on...
thanks
greg</TD></TR></TABLE>
no the collector throat is only at 2 1/4 and the megaphone is welded right on that...for a street setup it would have a transition that will go to a 2 1/2 and have a 2 bolt flange.welded on...
That is sweet, a 8 hp gain, that is just awesome. Would you be willing to offer the setup to someone who already has a JDM 4-1 header, if you could supply the 2-1 section I could weld it onto my existing header. I would be interested in that. Great numbers by the way.
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That's actually one of the first thoughts that popped into my mind when I saw this. Do you have any plans to construct something similar using a DC 4-1 instead of the JDM ITR piece?
Also, have you experimented with lengthening the secondaries at all, and would that be something a buyer could request? From what I recall, the headers you construct for extreme or large-displacement motors use shorter secondaries than the ones intended for more mild setups, and since this setup wouldn't be ideal for a hard-core build anyway, would longer secondaries be more beneficial?
That's actually one of the first thoughts that popped into my mind when I saw this. Do you have any plans to construct something similar using a DC 4-1 instead of the JDM ITR piece?
Also, have you experimented with lengthening the secondaries at all, and would that be something a buyer could request? From what I recall, the headers you construct for extreme or large-displacement motors use shorter secondaries than the ones intended for more mild setups, and since this setup wouldn't be ideal for a hard-core build anyway, would longer secondaries be more beneficial?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by persianprelude »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is sweet, a 8 hp gain, that is just awesome. Would you be willing to offer the setup to someone who already has a JDM 4-1 header, if you could supply the 2-1 section I could weld it onto my existing header. I would be interested in that. Great numbers by the way.
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well the problem is the individual not being able to execute the cut of the typeR header correctly.. .so this is something defiantely need to be sent in.. and done..
</TD></TR></TABLE>well the problem is the individual not being able to execute the cut of the typeR header correctly.. .so this is something defiantely need to be sent in.. and done..


