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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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i've been playing around again with some headers just wanted to share some pics with you guys...






i got some dyno results too post it up later..


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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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Looks awesome. Wonder what kind of numbers that makes over the stock setup. Megaphone looks nice also.
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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whoa.. that looks kinda cool. lets see the gains.
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 11:17 PM
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So is this basically a JDM ITR header that has been converted into a long-tube 4-2-1? If so, would it be cheaper than a complete custom long tube?
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 11:27 PM
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dyno results pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee can't wait no longer
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Old Sep 15, 2004 | 11:35 PM
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lol, you got yourself a hybrid there danny... looks pretty nice... does it have better clearence than the stock JDM 4-1?
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 12:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StorminMatt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So is this basically a JDM ITR header that has been converted into a long-tube 4-2-1? If so, would it be cheaper than a complete custom long tube?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah its alot cheaper..


here is a run log compared to a stock JDM 4-1

test engine: OEM type R piston with a 89 stroke LS crank head work/stage 2 cams type R intake manifold and a velocity stack intake...



Im actually going to test a modified DC 4-1 header soon..i think it will work alot better then the ITR from the bigger primary tubing...
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 03:35 AM
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did you run the dyno with open header?
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 04:05 AM
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and this is how much?

and any comparisons to one of your full custom headers?
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 04:07 AM
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One of the best looking headers I've seen lately and good numbers on the dyno! (DTRFAB)Sent you an email, reply when ever you can!
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 05:16 AM
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very cool, what size merge collector, maintained 2.5" ?

thanks
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 05:31 AM
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Nice
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 05:46 AM
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very nice work!
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 06:00 AM
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Looks nice. I have a couple quick questions though, will the stock lower heatshield/skidplate still be able to be used? Is this something you will be offering to customers or is it just for testing?
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 06:12 AM
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ground clearence?
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 07:30 AM
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wow i like that idea
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 08:04 AM
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how much would you sell that header for?
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 09:30 AM
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what can you do with a T1-R header?



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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you run the dyno with open header?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah both runs were ran with open header.. we tuned the 4-1 and all we did was add fuel pressure with the modified 4-2-1 JDM header..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks nice. I have a couple quick questions though, will the stock lower heatshield/skidplate still be able to be used? Is this something you will be offering to customers or is it just for testing?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The lower heat shield will not fit.. but the upper heat shield will fit fine.. ground clearence is the same to a stock JDM type R. This is something im looking into offering for my customers as an alternative to doing complete custom header the reason is i know there is alot of guys out there that are happy with making 210-220 and i know this type of set up will support it with no problem...


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and this is how much?
and any comparisons to one of your full custom headers?
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I haven't been able to do that yet... For sure i know the limitation of this header is caped at 215-220hp.. if it was a modded DC-4-1 it know it could go a little further..Then the 2 step custom ones will always make more power because it taylored to the motor...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rice4life &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much would you sell that header for?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I actually have 2 of these one without a meg and this one... give me a call at the shop ill fill you in..
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 11:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CHEETAH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">very cool, what size merge collector, maintained 2.5" ?

thanks
greg</TD></TR></TABLE>

no the collector throat is only at 2 1/4 and the megaphone is welded right on that...for a street setup it would have a transition that will go to a 2 1/2 and have a 2 bolt flange.welded on...
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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That is sweet, a 8 hp gain, that is just awesome. Would you be willing to offer the setup to someone who already has a JDM 4-1 header, if you could supply the 2-1 section I could weld it onto my existing header. I would be interested in that. Great numbers by the way.
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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nice job and nice gains
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DTRFAB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For sure i know the limitation of this header is caped at 215-220hp.. if it was a modded DC-4-1 it know it could go a little further...</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's actually one of the first thoughts that popped into my mind when I saw this. Do you have any plans to construct something similar using a DC 4-1 instead of the JDM ITR piece?

Also, have you experimented with lengthening the secondaries at all, and would that be something a buyer could request? From what I recall, the headers you construct for extreme or large-displacement motors use shorter secondaries than the ones intended for more mild setups, and since this setup wouldn't be ideal for a hard-core build anyway, would longer secondaries be more beneficial?
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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good **** Danny, can't wait till i test/dyno my new re-done header..

DTRFAB
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Old Sep 16, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by persianprelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is sweet, a 8 hp gain, that is just awesome. Would you be willing to offer the setup to someone who already has a JDM 4-1 header, if you could supply the 2-1 section I could weld it onto my existing header. I would be interested in that. Great numbers by the way. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well the problem is the individual not being able to execute the cut of the typeR header correctly.. .so this is something defiantely need to be sent in.. and done..
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