Which engine oil do you guys use for ur s2k?
A friend of mine has an s2k and his car lost 1.5 liters of engine oil in 2000 kms.
Might this be because of choosing the wrong oil ? (he uses Mobil1 0W40 )
Or is there a problem with the engine? (what would be the problem? what's the solution?) He also said the exhaust output of his car smells bad and he has some little black dots coming out of the exhaust! what is the problem with his car?

 

question 1 = mobil 1 10w30

question 2 = how hard does your friend drive his s? if these cars are driven hard, (especially w/ mobil 1 or any oil for that matter) they will consume some amount of oil.... hard to say exactly how much

any puddles of oil left after the car sits? i.e. oil leak?

i dont really see a problem with his engine if what you said is correct

as far as his exhaust smelling bad that may be catalytic converter related, although hard to say without seeing the vehicle, and the little black dots i have also,

when i shut my car off at night condensation forms in the exhaust, and when the car is started it spits it out the water dots, until the exhaust is warm enough to dry it out...

i hope this helps some, keep us posted if with any other symptoms

 

I use mobil 1 synthetic 10w-30. I burn about 1 quart of oil between changes. When I went racing, I burned a whole quart with only 134 track miles It all depends how hard you drive.

 

Thanks very much man i'll mail the forum to my friend.

 

Honda recommends 5w-30

 

10w-30 should be the only oil used, on this engine unless you have some type of special purpose where you need different protection.

The oil weight he was using would become too (high) viscous, at high temperatures.
He was proabably running a very low oil pressure.

That type of oil does not protect this engine in high temperature ranges. I certainly would never run it.

It would not shock me he is burning it off.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpeedXRacer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda recommends 5w-30</TD></TR></TABLE>

not for the s2000. 10w-30 is recommended by honda

 

Thank u all 4 help,
but another question,
now he changed his oil into 5W30 Sytnhetic (Brand: LG)
if the car looses oil again like it did before (1.5 litres in less than 2000 km with normal driving) , what would be the reason then?

 

why is he running a lighter weight oil?
It is too thin for that engine.

I assume he wants to keep the oil from lubricating parts properly when he is ripping off to the redline?

Have him change to 10w30, there is no reason to run a lighter weight oil.

The head design of the 00-03s is know to cause some oil burning.

He is burning a qt and a half ever 1600 miles.
Thats a lot, have him run the right oil.

If he was running the 0w oil for 4000km then he could have already done damage and thats no joke.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nishant &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

not for the s2000. 10w-30 is recommended by honda</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

10W30

MOBIL1 SYN

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fknfast &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">10W30

MOBIL1 SYN</TD></TR></TABLE>

same stuff i used, just changed my oil 10 mins ago

 

check tire pressure..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Motavia &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why is he running a lighter weight oil?
It is too thin for that engine.

I assume he wants to keep the oil from lubricating parts properly when he is ripping off to the redline?

Have him change to 10w30, there is no reason to run a lighter weight oil.

The head design of the 00-03s is know to cause some oil burning.

He is burning a qt and a half ever 1600 miles.
Thats a lot, have him run the right oil.

If he was running the 0w oil for 4000km then he could have already done damage and thats no joke.</TD></TR></TABLE>

do you know what you're talking about?

 

I work at a Honda dealer, and we have already replaced two S2000 motors due to oil consumption. We only use 10W30 oil when we change oil on the S2000. Honda states that you have to check your oil every time you fill up with gas.

 

Alrite guys thanx all of you for help, another question of mine,
as u know the vtec starts to pump around 6000 rpm, in the car we have been talking about, when the vtec starts, a little bit of black smoke comes out of the exhaust, not everytime, but most of the times. What would you say to that?

 

That's all the carbon deposited combustion chamber and on out. The increased flow of air is just blowing the loose carbon out like it should.

 

Yeah thanks for your input on the topic too.

 

10W30. I am my dealership's S2k guy. Don't use synthetic before 12000kms because it will reduce the friction between ring and cylinder wall so much that the rings won't seat properly. Honda suggests that up to a litre in 1000kms is normal. Spin any automobile motor up past 8000rpms and there will be some oil the rings just can't get out of the way fast enough.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Motavia &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah thanks for your input on the topic too.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was questioning your knowledge on oil, viscosity, and how a "lighter" and "thinner" oil will damage an engine.

 

This may not be s2000 related,

buT my turbo gsr is doing the same thing.. when ever i go on a trip , say 500 miles or more and i check my oil level, it doesn't even register on the dipstick.. I have to pour about a quart or so in , just to have it show up on the dipstick.. keep in mind, i'm not even driving it hard , just normal cruising and the ocassional passing... i've bot a built motor and i'm running 10w30.. would it be okay if i bumped it up to say, 15w30, cuz of the heat of a turbo motor??

thanks..

 

Well, my friend finally changed the oil again, to AGIP 10W40 (italian make), which was recomended by Honda Cyprus, and he's still watching what's gonna happen.
The reason we chose AGIP Engine Oil is because the people who professionally race here all use AGIP. (for Evo7, Evo8, Impreza WRX Sti etc...) They say AGIP wont loose oil as much as the others, but we will see. Mobil1, as i heared, is the one of the worst for Hondas, i also learned that Repsol is the best , and AGIP. 10W40 recommended by Honda ideal for Cyprus where we live and where it's 35-50 degrees celcius in the summer which lasts 8 months. Well he changed the oil again, waiting to see what's gonna happen, i'll let u guys informed, thanks for all help and suggestions, please keep posting.

 

the first number in the oil wieght, the 0, 5 10 so one refers to oil viscosity at 40 degrees C the second number 30,40 20 refers to thickness at 100degrees C since he is using a thinner oil when it is cooler it will be easier on start up, not during high revving operation assuming the car is fully warmed up. AT operating temp both oil will eb the same in thickness. I run an oil analysis lab so i know!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by REVS-2-9K &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the first number in the oil wieght, the 0, 5 10 so one refers to oil viscosity at 40 degrees C the second number 30,40 20 refers to thickness at 100degrees C since he is using a thinner oil when it is cooler it will be easier on start up, not during high revving operation assuming the car is fully warmed up. AT operating temp both oil will eb the same in thickness. I run an oil analysis lab so i know! </TD></TR></TABLE> <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NorthCyprus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, my friend finally changed the oil again, to AGIP 10W40 (italian make), which was recomended by Honda Cyprus, and he's still watching what's gonna happen.
The reason we chose AGIP Engine Oil is because the people who professionally race here all use AGIP. (for Evo7, Evo8, Impreza WRX Sti etc...) They say AGIP wont loose oil as much as the others, but we will see. Mobil1, as i heared, is the one of the worst for Hondas, i also learned that Repsol is the best , and AGIP. 10W40 recommended by Honda ideal for Cyprus where we live and where it's 35-50 degrees celcius in the summer which lasts 8 months. Well he changed the oil again, waiting to see what's gonna happen, i'll let u guys informed, thanks for all help and suggestions, please keep posting. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Nothing wrong with running a 10w40 weight. From friends over in Europe that run this oil, they don't have complaints besides the price. FYI, I've ran mobil, have not had any oil burning issues. I burned oil up till about 15,000 miles, after a few track events, the oil burning stopped and I figured the rings had finally set. Currently, I run redline 10w40

 

I don't know if this is a taboo but- I have to add this ,
I drive a 99 Civic Si w/ 135000 miles and throught the last 4 years
of changing oil every 3-5k miles ( 20+ times ). I have learned I burn more oil when autoXing and running hard. DAA right , but I have also changed oil brands 3 times, I loss the most with Mobil1 5W30 as my book states it (I guess the s2k is different) I found Castrol works best for my Si, less burning and wines out about the same.
Just thought I would toss that in there...
-Bill