Just totally amazing.

For all those who bitch that things aren't interesting, or that Schumi isn't all that, this a Hell of a race! Barrichello is blindingly fast, let's see if he will make it or run dry, or even make the pit and still take 1st. Schumi spinning in lap 1 and coming back so hard, then a fire and some off track excursions.

This is Great racing!

 

Schumi sucks!

BAR rocks! #2 in constructors!!!

 

JENSON BUTTON SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT AND SHOT!

This guy damn near has the race won, somehow loses P1 during his 2nd pit stop to Barrichello, then gets passed by Schumacher giving up P2. I can't believe he didn't even push to get into P1 when Barichello made his 3RD PIT STOP!

BAR and Honda fans should be appalled by his lack of performance. He prolly finishes in 3rd place but who cares when he could have easily foiled Ferrari's 1-2 finish. It makes it look as though Ferrari dominated when they really didn't Barrichello starts the race on intermediate tires, loses his pole mind you, on a drying track while having to pit early. Schumacher spins on the first lap and goes to 15th position. Then they still end up finshing 1 and 2!

No wonder why when drivers like Button just lay down and die! He will never ever win a race or be a champion!

If I was David Richard I would seriously consider giving his *** the b00t and letting him go his sorry *** way. The are other drivers way more deserving!

 

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BAR

 

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Same feeling here!
Mirai, surprise did not see you earlier today with up to date race forecast.

 

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BAR and Honda fans should be appalled by his lack of performance. He prolly finishes in 3rd place but who cares when he could have easily foiled Ferrari's 1-2 finish. It makes it look as though Ferrari dominated when they really didn't Barrichello starts the race on intermediate tires, loses his pole mind you, on a drying track while having to pit early. Schumacher spins on the first lap and goes to 15th position. Then they still end up finshing 1 and 2!


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Easily foiled Ferrari?!?! Were you watching the same race? Rubens and MS were running blistering times and came back from troubles and down in the pack. Button did well but the Ferrari guys drove better. Honda still gets a nod for finishing 3-4. But it just goes to show you how good the "whole" Ferrari team is and how well they work through diversity. That's why they win championships. That and their loyalty to the Stallion. Something Button knows nothing about.

 

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The running isn't always entirely solely in the driver's hands. Are you so sure it's the driver and not the team direction, or some issue that you're not aware of as a spectator?

It's a rhetorical question. Just wanted you to think about it. The driver's never the boatswain. He is only the coxswain.

 

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Easily foiled Ferrari?!?! Were you watching the same race? Rubens and MS were running blistering times and came back from troubles and down in the pack. Button did well but the Ferrari guys drove better. Honda still gets a nod for finishing 3-4. But it just goes to show you how good the "whole" Ferrari team is and how well they work through diversity. That's why they win championships. That and their loyalty to the Stallion. Something Button knows nothing about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm sure it was real easy to "drive well", as you put it, when the 3rd place car doesn't even put up a fight! Where you watching the same race? Did you see the way Schumacher passed Button for 2nd place? He simply went right around him as if Button had no care in the world. Safe to say he probably doesn't!

Of course the Ferrari guys can come back from early troubles when the 2nd place car of Button doesn't even try to close the under 3 sec gap. between he and leader while the leader is in the pit for the 3rd damn time. It's sad the people congratulating BAR for the 3rd place don't know a hollow victory/performance when they see it!

Even David Hobbs had to comment about Button's lack of competiteveness in the last 10 laps of the race!

 

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Could be......but Button did well in qualifying and his car seemed strong the whole race. He led a good portion of the race for awhile. What happened?

 

Could it be possible that MS got a better jump out of the turn than Button and had better momentum to overtake him? You could be right though, Button could have laid down at that straight, but I think it would have been a matter of time before MS would have tried another move on Button to overtake. But that lends itself to experience and attitude... MS will never sit down and die.

And don't discount the fact that Rubens shot off some great times to get that lead so he could keep it while in the pits when his crew did a great job to keep him in the lead.

I don't think it's ever "easy" to foil anyone in F1, especially a team like Ferrari. But with the problem child Button, that Honda is having to deal with, a 3-4 finish isn't too bad.

 

Don't worry Bro, Button is not going to be on BAR Honda next year anyway. Unfortunately his stupid *** little stunt prevented us from signing a good driver next year. We might have been able to get Webber or Fisi if we had known Button was going to dip out. Our best hope for next year is to either promote Ant or...*gasp*...bring JV back. And this is from a guy who doesn't like JV.

 

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Could be......but Button did well in qualifying and his car seemed strong the whole race. He led a good portion of the race for awhile. What happened?

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And Barrichello posted the fastest times Ever.

You can't possibly believe that Button wasn't trying or expected to end up where he did, even the announcers were stunned. MS walked the field, and as usual had luck on his side. There can't be that many lazy or poor drivers out there or even slow or poorly setup cars.

I'm a self proclaimed newb fan to F1, I only really started to follow it last year after spotty following last year. I'm not sold on anyone or play favorites. And maybe what I see or don't pay attention to are my faults but it almost sounds like people either complain about an almost conspiracy that allows Ferrari to dominate Or they just bitch that watching F1 is boring because MS and Ferrari win all the time almost as an assumption for every race.

But, there's No denying that Ferrari has an awesome team. How could they pull off what they did today if they didn't? I tend to see Barrichello as a more genuinely nicer and warmer and more grateful driver and MS as the arrogant "I'm the best how could you think differently" team mate.

It was truly an Awesome race and it was great to see Barrichello take P1.

It was also Awesome for BAR to take 2nd in the constructors championship by 2 points. 3rd overall on the podium may not be where most of the Honda fans would like them but such is life.

 

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You're 100% correct. Ferrari has their **** together. However, today was Honda's day, and Button lost it. In the past, and I've been an avid F1 fan for a long while, I've seen many things knock Honda out. Motors, pit stops, etc have all been culprits. Today was different. Button had the inside line coming onto the front straight. He gave up that line, and MS took advantage. Plain and simple.

Jason-
who think Honda/Button had their best shot at the top step today.

 

Cablevision.

No speed channel!


FAWKERS.

 

What ... there was an F1 race today? LOL!

Rerbroadcast(s) at 9 PM and 1 AM tonight ....

 

were any of of you guys who are ragging on BAR watching the gaps throughout the second half of the race? MS and RB were so much faster than everyone else. JB had no hope whatsoever of holding off MS.

consider this. at lap 25 JB was 25 seconds ahead of MS and 15 seconds ahead of DC. at lap 48 MS was 6 seconds up on JB and JB was 25 seconds up on DC.

so MS closed 31 seconds on JB while JB extended his lead on DC by 10 seconds. in only 23 laps.

that's how much quicker ferrari was than BAR who was a bit quicker than everyone else.

more proof here http://www.formula1.com/race/r....html

RB's fast lap was over 1 second and MS's fast lap was just under 1 second faster than anyone else. anyone!!!

 

I still miss Senna, because like MS he drove at or beyond his limit ALL THE TIME!

 

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F1 Decade OWNZ me!

 

Ferrari is just way too fast...they passed the whole freakin pack!...Button didn't have a chance in the world, (although I do agree that he should have put up more of a fight). Kind of re-enforces the fact that he won't do any better at Williams.

 

Oh..and Alonso is the bigger dumb **** for losing it in the corner. He couldn't take the pressure from Schumi. Had he stayed calm, he would have overtaken Button, because he clearly had the faster car.

 

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What fight could he or Sato have put up?? They were going at least a second faster a lap than ANYONE - and the BAR's finished quite a distance ahead of their 'competition'. I didnt' see Alonzo pass Button when he caught up to him in the first stint - and actually Button began to pull on Alonzo after the gap was under 1 second. Clearly he was not faster than Button, or he would have either made the pass, or hung with him and made the pass later on after the 1st round of stops.

I find it totally unbelievable that after watching the race - you guys would have bad things to say about BAR. WTF??? They got 3-4 finish, took SECOND in the constructor championship away from Renault, and thoroughly outdrove the rest of the pack. The ONLY car that was gaining on the BAR cars (besides Ferrari) at the end of the race was Pizzonia - who's fastest lap was faster than both Button's and Sato's, yet still 1 second off MS and 1.3 seconds off Rubens. Where did he finish? Even with that nice run at the end, he was still quite a bit behind BAR. I think Honda proved they can hang with the best (save Ferrari, and no one has or will be able to do that this year).

Re-watch the race - Ferrari was FASTER than everyone at every stage of the race. That's why they won, and that's why they always win!! Sure you can lead the race when MS spins and RB has to pit on lap 5 to put dry tires on......

Chris - who points up at lance's stats - the Ferraris were 1-2 seconds faster PER LAP - you can't put up a fight when someone is going that much faster than you.

 

JV is racing for Renault now and Trulli is out....this may tip the scales again

 

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Bad boy is back!

 

BAR rocks

 

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JV will be in a Sauber next year

Brian