Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R
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Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R
I just installed the comptech Icebox - Not really sure what to think. Helped a little bit in the top end.. didn't really feel a difference down low.
Anyone here have one and what are your opinions ?
Anyone here have one and what are your opinions ?
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I had my IceBox for about 2 and a half years and I always felt the power in the low and mid range .. It felt torquier than my new AEM which definitely makes power up top.. The IceBox is a great CAI but I don't think its made for top end power .. Get it dyno'd !!
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (Escobar)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Escobar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just installed the comptech Icebox - Not really sure what to think. </TD></TR></TABLE>
On Sakai's dyno test of intakes, the Icebox was one of the aftermarket intakes that actually did produce more power. He complained that the AEM actually lost power compared to stock.
What Comptech devotees will complain about is that the "scoop" effect of the Icebox at high speeds cannot be measured on the dyno. At the track, I do still see people removing their starboard turn signal housing (just takes a few seconds) so that as much air as possible can get to the Icebox.
I don't have a clear answer to this. I can't think of a way to actually measure or even estimate whatever worthwhile effect there might be. I have an Icebox myself, based on the reports in 2000 that it gained HP compared to the AEM and OEM airboxes.
Current wisdom is that the Mugen intake is the clear winner in any dyno shootout. There's a Spoon intake that looks very much like the Mugen intake, but this intake seems to have dropped off of everyone's list of commercially available parts. Of the last two Spoon DC2 ITR I have seen in blue/yellow livery, one had the OEM airbox, and one rather blatantly had a Mugen airbox installed.
The J's Racing intake also seems to provide some decent, measurable HP increases, and gives you some improved throttle response as well. Throttle response is subjective and not easily measured.
The expensive ARC induction airbox is also touted as one that gives the driver a markedly improved throttle response.
All these allegedly big performers (ARC, Mugen, J's Racing) are really rather expensive, and although it's clear that they do produce decent results on the dyno, I have yet to feel especially compelled to replace my Comptech Icebox with one of the newer favourites.
The Icebox, even new, isn't that expensive compared to a Mugen intake, and the extra HP isn't worth the extra money for me...at least not right now, at this stage of the motor's development.
The Icebox is a solid choice to make for a B18 intake. Don't worry about it so much.
On Sakai's dyno test of intakes, the Icebox was one of the aftermarket intakes that actually did produce more power. He complained that the AEM actually lost power compared to stock.
What Comptech devotees will complain about is that the "scoop" effect of the Icebox at high speeds cannot be measured on the dyno. At the track, I do still see people removing their starboard turn signal housing (just takes a few seconds) so that as much air as possible can get to the Icebox.
I don't have a clear answer to this. I can't think of a way to actually measure or even estimate whatever worthwhile effect there might be. I have an Icebox myself, based on the reports in 2000 that it gained HP compared to the AEM and OEM airboxes.
Current wisdom is that the Mugen intake is the clear winner in any dyno shootout. There's a Spoon intake that looks very much like the Mugen intake, but this intake seems to have dropped off of everyone's list of commercially available parts. Of the last two Spoon DC2 ITR I have seen in blue/yellow livery, one had the OEM airbox, and one rather blatantly had a Mugen airbox installed.
The J's Racing intake also seems to provide some decent, measurable HP increases, and gives you some improved throttle response as well. Throttle response is subjective and not easily measured.
The expensive ARC induction airbox is also touted as one that gives the driver a markedly improved throttle response.
All these allegedly big performers (ARC, Mugen, J's Racing) are really rather expensive, and although it's clear that they do produce decent results on the dyno, I have yet to feel especially compelled to replace my Comptech Icebox with one of the newer favourites.
The Icebox, even new, isn't that expensive compared to a Mugen intake, and the extra HP isn't worth the extra money for me...at least not right now, at this stage of the motor's development.
The Icebox is a solid choice to make for a B18 intake. Don't worry about it so much.
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (Escobar)
I believe the Icebox mostly gives you "acceleration" hp rather than peak hp like the AEM intake.
Your mid-range should see nice gains. I thinking about going with the Icebox myself.
Your mid-range should see nice gains. I thinking about going with the Icebox myself.
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (Escobar)
In retrospect, I don't think that I could tell much difference anywhere on the powerband in my previous ITR. Then again, I did still have the stock filter installed.
I took it off originally because in a stock autocross class intakes can't be moded.
I took it off originally because in a stock autocross class intakes can't be moded.
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (Escobar)
When I used the Icebox over the stock intake i noticed 2 things, louder vtec engagement and better mid-range throttle response. I'm sure it produces more power than stock, but id say 3-5hp max... remember the stock ITR intake is well designed and cant be improved upon very drastically.
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (George Knighton)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What Comptech devotees will complain about is that the "scoop" effect of the Icebox at high speeds cannot be measured on the dyno. At the track, I do still see people removing their starboard turn signal housing (just takes a few seconds) so that as much air as possible can get to the Icebox.</TD></TR></TABLE>
um the ice box has a tube that goes down into the front bumper area. what good would removing a turn signal be.
What Comptech devotees will complain about is that the "scoop" effect of the Icebox at high speeds cannot be measured on the dyno. At the track, I do still see people removing their starboard turn signal housing (just takes a few seconds) so that as much air as possible can get to the Icebox.</TD></TR></TABLE>
um the ice box has a tube that goes down into the front bumper area. what good would removing a turn signal be.
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Re: (machgo5go)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by machgo5go »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nobody ever try retro fit NSX air box like the
RTR guys?</TD></TR></TABLE>
doesn't sound like it would work
RTR guys?</TD></TR></TABLE>
doesn't sound like it would work
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It does work and I believe it takes some modifications.
I don't think it is really that great otherwise many would be promoting this. I had a friend that used it for awhile but decided to get something else.
I don't think it is really that great otherwise many would be promoting this. I had a friend that used it for awhile but decided to get something else.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B2FiNiTY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It does work and I believe it takes some modifications.
I don't think it is really that great otherwise many would be promoting this. I had a friend that used it for awhile but decided to get something else. </TD></TR></TABLE>
was it a PITA DIY mod?
I don't think it is really that great otherwise many would be promoting this. I had a friend that used it for awhile but decided to get something else. </TD></TR></TABLE>
was it a PITA DIY mod?
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (slammed_93_hatch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slammed_93_hatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
um the ice box has a tube that goes down into the front bumper area. what good would removing a turn signal be.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Um it lets more air in...the whole from the turn signal is right where the Icebox's air horn is located...
um the ice box has a tube that goes down into the front bumper area. what good would removing a turn signal be.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Um it lets more air in...the whole from the turn signal is right where the Icebox's air horn is located...
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (Escobar)
I've heard good things about the Icebox but when shopping for an intake I decided to go with the cf J's because of the throttle response reviews. Anyway, the J's turned out to be everything I thought it would be and by far the best mod I've done yet. I almost bought the Icebox. I believe that the power is to be 'felt' all throughout the rpm range, not a vtec spike like the AEM. I think you made a wise choice in intakes. Don't be discouraged, I'm sure it will work well with future mods. Good luck.
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (Justin Klemgold)
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Um it lets more air in...the whole from the turn signal is right where the Icebox's air horn is located...</TD></TR></TABLE>
ooo **** i got owned, sorry iw as thinking civic
Um it lets more air in...the whole from the turn signal is right where the Icebox's air horn is located...</TD></TR></TABLE>
ooo **** i got owned, sorry iw as thinking civic
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (slammed_93_hatch)
Cool. Thanks for all the replies. I appreciate it.
IT IS a stock CW ITR other than the icebox. I'm sure it will make a world of difference with an upgraded exhaust.
I wonder what I should do first... 4.78 or exhaust.
IT IS a stock CW ITR other than the icebox. I'm sure it will make a world of difference with an upgraded exhaust.
I wonder what I should do first... 4.78 or exhaust.
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (Escobar)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Escobar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cool. Thanks for all the replies. I appreciate it.
IT IS a stock CW ITR other than the icebox. I'm sure it will make a world of difference with an upgraded exhaust.
I wonder what I should do first... 4.78 or exhaust. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well if your exhaust includes a good header and a well designed mandrel bent catback with minimum 60mm od and a a good high flow cat then good.
But, I'd get the 4.929.
Don't ***** out wit that JDM ish
IT IS a stock CW ITR other than the icebox. I'm sure it will make a world of difference with an upgraded exhaust.
I wonder what I should do first... 4.78 or exhaust.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Well if your exhaust includes a good header and a well designed mandrel bent catback with minimum 60mm od and a a good high flow cat then good.
But, I'd get the 4.929.
Don't ***** out wit that JDM ish
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (Escobar)
4.78 + light weight flyheel
Much better bang for the buck than a $1000 exhaust.
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I wonder what I should do first... 4.78 or exhaust. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Much better bang for the buck than a $1000 exhaust.
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I wonder what I should do first... 4.78 or exhaust.
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (Escobar)
From back to back dyno testing on my stock B18c5, the Comptech made more usable horsepower throughout the whole RPM range.
This was done with 4 intakes.
ITR CAI AEM, Comptech Icebox, copycat AEM CAI, and a fake J's intake.
My personal out of the 4 ended up being the Comptech.
Now, if I can order another air fitler since the other one got lost somehow???
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BERT-O »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
From back to back dyno testing on my stock B18c5, the Comptech made more usable horsepower throughout the whole RPM range.
This was done with 4 intakes.
ITR CAI AEM, Comptech Icebox, copycat AEM CAI, and a fake J's intake.
My personal out of the 4 ended up being the Comptech.
Now, if I can order another air fitler since the other one got lost somehow???</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's not really an accurate test....you aren't factoring in heat soak on the engine or the fact that no two dyno runs are the same....do back to back runs and you may differ a few HP...the best way to do it is do 3 or so pulls and average it out...allowing sufficient time between runs to let the engine cool....
In order to find out the true advantage of one intake or another, all factors must be held constant....take one intake off and slapping another on is not holding all factors constant....
From back to back dyno testing on my stock B18c5, the Comptech made more usable horsepower throughout the whole RPM range.
This was done with 4 intakes.
ITR CAI AEM, Comptech Icebox, copycat AEM CAI, and a fake J's intake.
My personal out of the 4 ended up being the Comptech.
Now, if I can order another air fitler since the other one got lost somehow???</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's not really an accurate test....you aren't factoring in heat soak on the engine or the fact that no two dyno runs are the same....do back to back runs and you may differ a few HP...the best way to do it is do 3 or so pulls and average it out...allowing sufficient time between runs to let the engine cool....
In order to find out the true advantage of one intake or another, all factors must be held constant....take one intake off and slapping another on is not holding all factors constant....
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (Escobar)
how about the conditions? *** dyno's are off and if there's a temperature variation, you'd miss the power gains. Elevation, temperature, blah blah.
An intake does make power, you might not feel it but anytime you open up the path of oxygen to the engine, you're going to make more power than stock, relax. Its not like intakes give you real SERIES gains in power. Relax.
An intake does make power, you might not feel it but anytime you open up the path of oxygen to the engine, you're going to make more power than stock, relax. Its not like intakes give you real SERIES gains in power. Relax.
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Re: Comptech Icebox - Just installed on my R (Justin Klemgold)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Justin Klemgold »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
That's not really an accurate test....you aren't factoring in heat soak on the engine or the fact that no two dyno runs are the same....do back to back runs and you may differ a few HP...the best way to do it is do 3 or so pulls and average it out...allowing sufficient time between runs to let the engine cool....
In order to find out the true advantage of one intake or another, all factors must be held constant....take one intake off and slapping another on is not holding all factors constant....</TD></TR></TABLE>
I should have re-phrase it,lol.................I made 8 runs on each intake. 3 runs were to have the engine warm up enough as previous. The other 5 dyno pulls I took to documents. All was done on the same day, within 3 hours. Took 5 minutes between each dyno pull, and then a estimate 15 minute to switch out intakes. The 3 hard dyno pull was to keep the motor temp consistent.
I never post the dyno sheets due to this test was for my personal use. I know if I would have posted, there would have been alot of contraversy about it.
I did a similiar test with 4 headers after the intake test. I still like my DC 4-1, lol
That's not really an accurate test....you aren't factoring in heat soak on the engine or the fact that no two dyno runs are the same....do back to back runs and you may differ a few HP...the best way to do it is do 3 or so pulls and average it out...allowing sufficient time between runs to let the engine cool....
In order to find out the true advantage of one intake or another, all factors must be held constant....take one intake off and slapping another on is not holding all factors constant....</TD></TR></TABLE>
I should have re-phrase it,lol.................I made 8 runs on each intake. 3 runs were to have the engine warm up enough as previous. The other 5 dyno pulls I took to documents. All was done on the same day, within 3 hours. Took 5 minutes between each dyno pull, and then a estimate 15 minute to switch out intakes. The 3 hard dyno pull was to keep the motor temp consistent.
I never post the dyno sheets due to this test was for my personal use. I know if I would have posted, there would have been alot of contraversy about it.
I did a similiar test with 4 headers after the intake test. I still like my DC 4-1, lol
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