prelude s (1993) dsm turbo kit
Any of you on here familiar with putting the dsm manifold onto the prelude s? If anyone did that here could you please Im me or just post the basics of the buildup or the whole buildup if you can? Thanks.
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yeah, it fits both of them, and itll even fit the h22 with some modding.
what your gonna need;
turbo: go with a 14b, its the biggest dsm turbo, without spending a lot of money on a 16g
Manifold: get a 2g (95-99) eclipse or talon manifold, because alot of the 1g manifols are cracked
BOV; go with a 1g BOV
Wastegate: the 14bturbo has an internal wastegate, that youll probably want to modify to open sooner, beacuse I think it hits like 13 psi, but im not real sure on that
Intercooler: If your real broke, just use the little sidemount Intercooler, if youve got enought get a front mount Ic
Oil lines; Just get a kit from http://www.cheapturbolines.com/
Fuel Management: go with Uberdata, and have some one chip your ECU and tuneit for you, unless youve got $600 to spare, and if you do than go with Hondata
youll also need misc gauges, and there might be something im forgettin
But if you dont know what any of those things are or what they do than you should wait a while before going turbo
-Charlie
what your gonna need;
turbo: go with a 14b, its the biggest dsm turbo, without spending a lot of money on a 16g
Manifold: get a 2g (95-99) eclipse or talon manifold, because alot of the 1g manifols are cracked
BOV; go with a 1g BOV
Wastegate: the 14bturbo has an internal wastegate, that youll probably want to modify to open sooner, beacuse I think it hits like 13 psi, but im not real sure on that
Intercooler: If your real broke, just use the little sidemount Intercooler, if youve got enought get a front mount Ic
Oil lines; Just get a kit from http://www.cheapturbolines.com/
Fuel Management: go with Uberdata, and have some one chip your ECU and tuneit for you, unless youve got $600 to spare, and if you do than go with Hondata
youll also need misc gauges, and there might be something im forgettin
But if you dont know what any of those things are or what they do than you should wait a while before going turbo
-Charlie
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I am in progress on my cb7 (with f22a1). Also a couple of guys on http://www.cb7tuner.com have done this
.
My list is consisting of this:
dsm manifold- 40
dsm bov- 30
t25- 150
SMIC-35
dsm 450 injectors- 45
safc- 150
oil lines- 70
powder coated IC tubing installed- 100
tuning & install- 200-300
Said and done ~700-900 dollars
The f22a exhaust ports are like 0 0 0 0 and the dsm ports are like 0 0 0 0 the only thing that need to be done with the manifold is it needs to be redrill since the bolts on the block all won't line up to the exhaust manifold. This will work for h22a, h23, f22a since the ports are the same.
Obviously if you have a h22 I would go with better tuning/manifold etc. But the t25 (2g dsm turbo) is a quick spooling turbo that will start to drop off around 6K (thats where my accord redlines any way
) and is internally wastegated at 8psi.
The 14B turbo is a little bit bigger turbo and should get full boost around 3000 all the way until 6500-7K (I believe). It was used on 1g dsm turbos manual.
There is a 13B turbo that came off the 1g dsm auto cars and obviously is smaller with lower psi I believe 6psi. All 3 turbos will work on either a 1g manifold or a 2 g manifold so you have 3 turbos to choose from (probably more).
Here are some links:
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/sh...10635 - dsm turbos
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/sh...10680 - dsm manifolds for f22a1/4/6
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/sh...10304 - sources for fuel management
http://www.racetep.com/turbo.html - a good turbo read
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/sh...=8452 - f22 turbo project (member)
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/sh...10174 - more pictures w/f22
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/f...22756 - more f22 projects/dsm parts line up
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/f...25684 - dsm parts w/cb7
http://www.homemadeturbo.com
Hope these help
.My list is consisting of this:
dsm manifold- 40
dsm bov- 30
t25- 150
SMIC-35
dsm 450 injectors- 45
safc- 150
oil lines- 70
powder coated IC tubing installed- 100
tuning & install- 200-300
Said and done ~700-900 dollars
The f22a exhaust ports are like 0 0 0 0 and the dsm ports are like 0 0 0 0 the only thing that need to be done with the manifold is it needs to be redrill since the bolts on the block all won't line up to the exhaust manifold. This will work for h22a, h23, f22a since the ports are the same.
Obviously if you have a h22 I would go with better tuning/manifold etc. But the t25 (2g dsm turbo) is a quick spooling turbo that will start to drop off around 6K (thats where my accord redlines any way
) and is internally wastegated at 8psi.The 14B turbo is a little bit bigger turbo and should get full boost around 3000 all the way until 6500-7K (I believe). It was used on 1g dsm turbos manual.
There is a 13B turbo that came off the 1g dsm auto cars and obviously is smaller with lower psi I believe 6psi. All 3 turbos will work on either a 1g manifold or a 2 g manifold so you have 3 turbos to choose from (probably more).
Here are some links:
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/sh...10635 - dsm turbos
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/sh...10680 - dsm manifolds for f22a1/4/6
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/sh...10304 - sources for fuel management
http://www.racetep.com/turbo.html - a good turbo read
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/sh...=8452 - f22 turbo project (member)
http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/sh...10174 - more pictures w/f22
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/f...22756 - more f22 projects/dsm parts line up
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/f...25684 - dsm parts w/cb7
http://www.homemadeturbo.com

Hope these help

the t25 turbo is junk pretty much, you should have gone with 14b, it will spool quicker than 3k, my 16g hit full boost about 3k, plus you have a 2.2-2.3 motor which will allow the turbo to spool earlier.
t25 isn't junk; it is a matter of opinion. The application I wanted didn't call for 3500 spool up time (14B) and I wanted a faster spooling turbo also I won't be going to redline and will be shifting around 4-5K when I am "on it" .
I help you out and you call my setup junk....
I help you out and you call my setup junk....
Working on it. I'll tell you how it goes
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http://www.slowboyracing.com has nice, inexpensive, Mitsu aftermarket. I wanted to run a Garret snail over a Mitsu. I actually bought and sold a turbo, realizing that it would never get me where I wanted. My plan isn't exactly junkyard, but my goals aren't that low either.
.http://www.slowboyracing.com has nice, inexpensive, Mitsu aftermarket. I wanted to run a Garret snail over a Mitsu. I actually bought and sold a turbo, realizing that it would never get me where I wanted. My plan isn't exactly junkyard, but my goals aren't that low either.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SearchBeforeUPost! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have an h22 and have lined up the DSM manifold and it won't work. It's cast iron and you can't modify the bolt holes to fit as you could with f22.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Check this out:
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/f...25684
He has a h22 and his works
. But when you say it won't work what do you mean?
Check this out:
http://www.homemadeturbo.com/f...25684
He has a h22 and his works
. But when you say it won't work what do you mean?
Spool is not 3500 on a 14b, dsms have a 2.0 and spool is about 2500-3000 on a 14b and you have a larger 2.3-2.3 motor so yours should be around there too, the t25 is good for about a maximum of 250whp, All Im saying is that if you got a 14b you'd be much more satisfied.
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