Refer to this thread for the details

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=983748

Came to the conclusion that by 3 good opinions from work and 2 in that thread that my throwout bearing was fucked

Now what exactly does this mean? Does it mean that the bearing is disintegrated? Moved? Knocked out of place?

Like do I have to buy a new one or will the stock one still be there and I can just reallign it (dont even know what this bearing is or where) and be done with it?

Whats the prcedure like to fix this sucker?

Can it be done by an amataur without a lift, power tools and little knowledge and a helms?

Thanks,

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Is the throwout bearing the same as the release bearing? If so, for a D, your going to need to remove the transmission.

The release bearing is located on the transmission itself, the spline rests inside. Changing it out really isn't that hard, the only tricky part is aligning the spring, and even then its not that much of a hassle.

However, when a single part of the clutch system starts to go, its advisable to replace everything else, like clutch, flywheel. You can't really tell how much a clutch has left just by looking at it.

The first time I did a drop on the transmission it took me the better part of 12 hours. Since then I've dropped the transmission four more times and it takes me a little less than 2 1/2 hours. You'll need at least two jacks and a second pair of hands to remove and align the transmssion.

I can get you a picture of the bearing later today.

 

holy **** the hole tranny has to be removed eh, ****

Alright, maybe I can handle that. Theres no way I can get a second set of hands though, Ill be babysitting an 8 year old saturday and sunday way out in the country.

Would I actually need to jacks? Im gonna be by myself on this one and I dont have a lift and only 1 jack and 2 stands, plenty of bricks lol

Ill have a solid 20 or more hours to tackle this, but if I dont get it done monday morning.... Id be fucked for getting home and to work and then coming back out into the country to work on the car....

Pics you can get would be greatly appreciated. Dam

 

You need something to hold your motor up while your transmission is removed from the car. You can use your car jack, just be sure to place a piece of wood between it and your motor pan.

You can drop the transmission by yourself with just the jack, no problem. Just use a little leverage bar(make sure not to scratch the clutch) between the bell housing and the engine. The bad part is reattaching and realigning the transmission, its a total bitch even with two people!

I CONSIDER THIS HIGHLY DANGEROUS!
If you can bench more than 75lbs, then you could always attempt to bench press the transmission and realign it. I'd advise you to remove the axle on the passenger side and remove the radius rod(good luck getting it back on, you'll probably need a chain hoist to do it), this will ensure that you have enough room to push the transmission up. Be sure to wear some gloves, the aluminum shell and flesh do not mix very well.

You could always ask a neighbor for help, you only really need another person for reconnecting the transmission, all he has to do is move the jack around and pump it.

 

Oh ya, forgot the motor only has 1 mount holding her up and the tranny has 3...

So why cant I just build up with bricks and some wood shims and place them under the pan, so the motor doesnt have to hopefully move an inch, and I wont need to buy another jack

And then I have to put the jack under the tranny (hard to drop it evenly??), undo the 3 mounts, the 6? tranny -&gt; motor bolts, what else is removed before dropping? Then lower the tranny a few inches until I can have a good bit of access underneath it, then go at the throw outbearing

But if anyone knows what actually went wrong... like is my bearing just not spinning? blown, needs to be replaced or just realligned?

Those pics you said you could grab would be great. Im going to ******* study my helms tomorrow at work

 

If you can bench more than 75lbs, then you could always attempt to bench press the transmission and realign it.

Actually you don't even need to bench that much. I had a friend lay on his back and hold the tranny with his lower leggs. Worked out really well.

Also if you have never done a tranny before set aside a bunch of time the first time (took me 10 hours) it is not really hard just lining up the tranny is a huge PITA.

 

if ur clutch is old/stock I would replace the entire thing. a New clutch (disc and pp) usually come w/ a t/o bearing as well.

 

Haha i thought i was the only one that Benched the Tranmission back into the car.

Truthfully tho. If this is gonna be youre first time, you might want to wait till you have a second set of hands to help out. Also most of the time when they go bad they just make noise. As long as they dont Seize up then youre good to go. You would know if it seized up to Because it would be doing some Serious Rubbing on the fingers of you preassure plate.

If you can hold out till you can get some help thats youre best bet. Hell my first time doing one it took me 2days cuz i got something stuck between the Tranny and the block. and had to pull it all apart. Now I can pull it out and replace a Clutch and put it all back together i about 2hours by myself. The first time the worst Cuz youre goinng be fighting alot of bolts. And when you put it all back together youre gonna see Honda Added alot of parts you dont even need.

Ill see if i can find a Pic of the Clutch assembley.

 

Get a friend to help. Aligning the tranny is a PITA by your self. Or you can use a jack to lift the tranny into place and then put it in that way.

 

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The helms says to remove the lower exhasut pipe. You only need to do this to completely remove the front transmission mount bolt. I didn't bother with that step and I didn't have any problems getting the tranny back in. It's not very easy to tighten the bolts back on with the radiator in there.

 

Ya this tranny is a bit old but Im building a tranny with an LSD and some heavy **** and dont want to use it during the winter, so Ill just replace the bearing and do my daily driving for the winter

I do need some help though guys, am I removing the complete tranny and dropping it onto the ground? Then I have to locate and remove this bearing right? Is there a lot of assembly involved? like do a lot of things have to be removed to get to the throwout bearing......

Also dont I have to remove and axle as well? Im seriously new to doing my own internal work lol, Im used to bolt ons and body work

I also search for throwout bearing and got nothing, does this not happen a lot? Anonline guide with more pics than the helms would be great

 

Take both axles out.
The only thing that really sucks about this is lining up the tranny the rest is pretty easy and fast.
By yourself it can be a pain but its doable, I have done it myself numerous times with D and B motors.

 

You need to drop the complete tranny and you will see the throwout bearing right there and its super easy to replace and no disassembly of the tranny needed.

 

never removed an axle myself either, isnt it just taking off the cotter pin, 1 nut and they slide out? I think my father did that part when we swapped in this zc

 

You have to completely remove the battery and the battery tray.
The starter has to come out (2 bolts).
Jack the car up and set it on jack stands.
Remove the front wheels.
Remove alxe nuts.
Remove cotter pins from lower ball joint
Remove castle nuts from lower ball joint
Seperate LCA from knuckle

EDIT: remove radius rod that is under the tranny.

The Helms suggests you remove the shock fork and then the axles.
I didn't remove the fork. I pushed the axles out from the tranny and then tied them up out of the way.

Support the engine.
Remove the mounts
Remove the tranny to engine bolts - there one hiding one the oposite side (engine side) under the intake manifold.

Pull that tranny out.
Throw it in the neighbors lawn and go take a shower.


The thorw-out bearing is inside the tranny case. It moves in and out with the release arm when you press on the clutch pedal.
Follow the helms for that... EASY.


Modified by 4drEF at 12:52 PM 9/8/2004

 

Is there anything I have to watch for when removing the starter?

After I get the axles out (not probably going to be easy) and the tranny bolts off, there will be nothing else attaching the tranny to the engine right?

Both axles have to be removed?

Youre sure the lca has to be removed? Im not liking that part, my rears were seized so I just didnt install my new suspension

If you could throw a bump or 2 at this thread over the night, Id appreciate it,

Im going to work now til 2am so any help or keeping it close to the top is greatly appreciated

 

Starter backs out easy
Remove both axles
I never take the LCA off

And here is a pic of the throwout bearing, Sorry its not the greatest since its a pic of a pic.
The bearing is the shinny ring you see in the middle(and you can see I had a bad seal )

 

Oh man, oil all over the floor. Nice

 

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Yea not cool and not fun to clean

 

Alright so the ring is right in plain sight when I drop it, now how do I remove the ring?

Like its attached to the fork somehow right?

Only thing Im going to get stuck on is removig the axles and getting the tranny to line right back up

 

wow.. i really dont think u should be doing this if u do not have the right tools or the experience.. it'll be real tough and real dangerous... id say get someone from HT that knows what they are doing to do it for u, or take it to a shop.. the throwout bearing is cake to replace.. taking the tranny off is the hard part...

 

i say you should get a complete clutch kit. i'm betting that a spring on the clutch disc is rattling around in there...need to replace disc.

 

From the 2 threads I read about throwout bearings both had the exact symptoms, and before I even told my coworker I had a problem, I took him for a drive to see if he could pinpoint it, he instantly said is the clutch vibrating? Yup, throwout bearing, he called it the release bearing but its the same thing right?

Also the right tools? **** it, sockets, liquid wrench and some wood = good time

Need axle help though

 

I don't bother removing the axles completely during a transmission drop, they don't really get in the way that much. Just pull off the lower ball joint and pull the axles with the hub assembly out and away. Be sure to use a a lever on the axles to remove the from them transmission housing otherwise pulling them by hand might damage them.


The bearing is only one bolt, its connected to the clutch cable arm.

Just follow your Helms, you'll be fine.

 

^^ I dont get what that means

Your up late night like me to eh