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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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My mom checked he oil in her 2000 civic and notcied it was a lil low and put about a tbsp of ATF, Question is do you think I should flush out her oil or let it go, I never heard of this happening or of anybody putting anything in the crankcase but oil!
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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i dont think a tablespoon on atf will hurt it. but thats cuz i do things cheap
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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why would she do this?? does she know what oil is and where it goes?
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:12 PM
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...why a tablespoon worth of ANYTHING?
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mood513doom &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My mom checked he oil in her 2000 civic and notcied it was a lil low and put about a tbsp of ATF, Question is do you think I should flush out her oil or let it go, I never heard of this happening or of anybody putting anything in the crankcase but oil! </TD></TR></TABLE>


wtf?!
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...why a tablespoon worth of ANYTHING?</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by eL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...why a tablespoon worth of ANYTHING?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Especially something that isn't the same oil as what was in there already??
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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it was an accident she grabed the wrong container, thats how much she told mt she put in she looked down and saw the fluid was red and not brown she didnt measure it out or anything
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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IF your really worried then do an oil change and a filter change and call it good. ATF is similar to Oil but usually only operates at 170 degrees, so it will burn if you run it as normal oil.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BatuKing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IF your really worried then do an oil change and a filter change and call it good. ATF is similar to Oil but usually only operates at 170 degrees, so it will burn if you run it as normal oil.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so, if that being the case, would it just burn it off, and then you should just be able to top off the oil and call it a day?
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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I guess you could burn it off but flushing oil isn't too hard.. just change it. Better safe than sorry.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by aphex23 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

so, if that being the case, would it just burn it off, and then you should just be able to top off the oil and call it a day? </TD></TR></TABLE>

No it burns so it oxidizes , have you ever smelled old tranny fluid from an automatic car? It doesnt burn off it changes to a dark brown state and stays in there. I personally would just do an oil change just to get it out.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 09:48 PM
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word, just flush it out
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 09:54 PM
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a tablespoon? some funny ****
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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They're compatable and won't do any damage. You could run straight ATF if the climate allowed - and your motor could deal with the friction upon startup - and you'd be fine.

Not that you SHOULD do it, but it won't do anything. You could put a "tablespoon" of HCl or liquid nitrogen in your engine and it wouldn't do ****...it's just not enough fluid to really disturb the balance of things.
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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I agree...for what it's worth.

A tablespoon is nothing...It's less than .5% of the volume of the oil that's in there.

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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 09:01 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They're compatable and won't do any damage. You could run straight ATF if the climate allowed - and your motor could deal with the friction upon startup - and you'd be fine.

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That has to be the absolute worst thing I have ever seen posted on this website.

To the original poster, why even post this? Something went into the wrong place, change it and have no worries.
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by furious94ls &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That has to be the absolute worst thing I have ever seen posted on this website.

To the original poster, why even post this? Something went into the wrong place, change it and have no worries. </TD></TR></TABLE>

not true... ATF has a very high detergent value to it and some engine builders will actually put 100% ATF in the engine during it's initial breakin period (usually only 60mi or so) to help flush out the engine before refilling it with regular oil.

The small amount of ATF that went into your moms car will probably just help to clean the engine a little like an engine flush would. I wouldn't worry about it at all.
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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Can you back that statement up? Show some sites where that is stated? I heard that small amounts in the fuel system is a good cleaner. I don't think a small amount in the oil would be a big deal either, but not filling up the engine with it.
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Yes, ATF works as a detergent. A lot of guys use it in place of seafoam, and it works just the same.

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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 11:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00Red_SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

not true... ATF has a very high detergent value to it and some engine builders will actually put 100% ATF in the engine during it's initial breakin period (usually only 60mi or so) to help flush out the engine before refilling it with regular oil.

The small amount of ATF that went into your moms car will probably just help to clean the engine a little like an engine flush would. I wouldn't worry about it at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Those engine builders are dumb then. You want a NON-Detergent oil when you are breaking an engine in. You want the parts to wear in a little, hence use a ND oil.
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by furious94ls &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can you back that statement up? Show some sites where that is stated? I heard that small amounts in the fuel system is a good cleaner. I don't think a small amount in the oil would be a big deal either, but not filling up the engine with it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

It was something I read in a magazine article at one time, doubt I'll be able to find it again but it's true or I wouldn't state it here. If it was something I heard or it was my own opinion I would have said it was. I'm more about facts than opinions.
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DavidR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Those engine builders are dumb then. You want a NON-Detergent oil when you are breaking an engine in. You want the parts to wear in a little, hence use a ND oil. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ummm incase you didn't know...99% of ALL engine oils have detergents or "cleaning factors" in them. You're thinking of synthetic motor oils which shouldn't be used until the motor is broken in because they are SO slippery that the piston rings don't seat properly so they recomend that reg oil is used until break in is achieved, then you can switch to synthetic.
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 11:34 AM
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not sure how true this is but my brother said its good to put some atf in sometimes cause its cleans out the injectors and cleans the motor a lil bit
but not sure how right he is
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 11:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not sure how true this is but my brother said its good to put some atf in sometimes cause its cleans out the injectors and cleans the motor a lil bit
but not sure how right he is</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's more in respect to adding some to your fuel which is an old hot rodders trick, ask any of them and they'll be familiar with it. In this case we're talking about ATF in the crankcase but it will have a similar effect.
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