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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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Does anyone out there currently run the H&R Cup Kit on their EK? I know it's great set up, but I've never seen it on a Civic. Would you mind posting up some pictures if you have them? Thanks.

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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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do you plan on autocrossing a lot?
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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Not at all....why?
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 06:30 PM
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sexy lookin pair of shocks
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99 EK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not at all....why?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Because you don't need to overbuy suspension components if you're just driving your Civic on the street. Get some KYB AGX's, Tein S-tech coil springs and a good rear swaybar and call it a day. I road race on that combo and pull some nice handling, so I'm sure it'll work out for your street car.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 06:53 PM
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i have it great set up its so much fun
its pretty good street use not bad i like it
i got mines for 625 shiped hell of a deal of you ask me for what you get.
this on the lowest setting






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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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How do you know the car has the same kit you want? It's lowered yeah but who knows. Nice car by the way.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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where did you get that front lip?
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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i got it from my cousin its made by invidia over a year ago
a few h-t sponsors now carry them
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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I thought all the cup kits were just koni yellows and h&r sport springs
(which would make them the same setup that I have)
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Archidictus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Because you don't need to overbuy suspension components if you're just driving your Civic on the street. Get some KYB AGX's, Tein S-tech coil springs and a good rear swaybar and call it a day. I road race on that combo and pull some nice handling, so I'm sure it'll work out for your street car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm sure your opinion is an educated one. An opinion that is backed by vast suspension experience. I'm also sure that many people on this site have paid more than $600 for Koni Sports and lets say...Tein, Eibach, Neuspeed, H&R, or even Tanabe springs. I mean let's get serious. The average consumer (not the high-speed, group buy, shop-around kind of techies like you and me) will likely pay over $500 for the exact suspension set-up you have. With that being said, is $570 shipped for an H&R Cup Kit considered overbuying?

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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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damn 570?
sick deal!!
yes the H&R cup kit is koni yellows and h&r springs but the shocks have been valved to h&r's specs to match the springs.
so in a way its alittle bit better its alittle bit cheaper too then to buy koni yellows and h&r springs separate
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 07:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hayabusa160 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn 570?
sick deal!!
yes the H&R cup kit is koni yellows and h&r springs but the shocks have been valved to h&r's specs to match the springs.
so in a way its alittle bit better its alittle bit cheaper too then to buy koni yellows and h&r springs separate</TD></TR></TABLE>

It must not be too popular of a set-up within the H T community. According to the H&R website, the Cup Kit is a bit lower than the H&R Sport springs, but I imagine that has to do with the height adjustability of the re-valved Koni Sport shocks.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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So if theyre valved for the springs, theyre not damper adjustable then?
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So if theyre valved for the springs, theyre not damper adjustable then?</TD></TR></TABLE>

They definitely have dampening adjustability, according to the H&R website. I've seen pictures of the kit from archived classifieds listings and they all show the Koni adjustment ****, just like the Yellows. The pics also clearly show the three height adjustment ridges in the shock body.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pdiggitydogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So if theyre valved for the springs, theyre not damper adjustable then?</TD></TR></TABLE>

they are...they just matched the damp[ening capabilities to the springs to give it the best combo possible. This is a great street setup for the cost. You get a progressive rate spring, which some may not like for racing purposes...you get slight ride adjustment and you get a VERY well proven damper. Later on in life, you can always order a GC sleeve setup made for Yellows and swap the springs out for a ERS/GC combo for a more aggressive setup
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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friend has them on his 96 civic coupe and loves them.
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Old Sep 6, 2004 | 08:24 PM
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What are the spring rates on this kit??
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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Wow...I didn't know that you could get them for that little. You're absolutely right that for $570 you'd be better off buying them than cobbling together a kit like I'm running. I'm not used to seeing rate-matched suspension components go for such low cost.

Good deal, man: buy that **** .
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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I think it's a good deal too, considering the prices others are paying for lesser quality suspension setups.
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 01:17 AM
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The H&R Cup Kit is a superior value IMO. My friend just got his set about a week ago and loves them. The handling is very tight now on his '92 hatch at the expense of some ride comfort but I'm sure with some fiddling it'd be a lot better.
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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i've been looking too, anyone help us out?
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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knowing h&r nobody will ever find out
ive tried for a long time to find out spring rates for my old jetta
but everytime i tried i either got no response or saying that they wont release that info
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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IME, the kit is great for the street car. It IS pretty stiff. I asked about you autocrossing because of the spring rates. I HEARD the springs are the same as their race springs. I HEARD their race springs are 450/270. The car does love to plow, but great in the slalom. I'm toying with the idea of going with some GCs and my own spring rates.
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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My car with the kit.

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