Hey guys, im new here, so yeah hey. Well I found a 1999 Civic Si in Tucson, Az with 49,000 miles on it. It has a theft title though , the guy who owns it now put in a B16a2 from a 2000 Si, and he put in a 2000 spec Si interior. The engine/transmission has 49,000 miles on it, the chassis milage is unknown . It's going for $7,800, which I think is reasonable. But what do you guys think? I'm going to test drive it tomorrow, anything i should look out for? Thanks for your input.

 

that is a really good price...but a theft title? what does that mean its stolen? ive never heard of a theft title before

 

Offer him 7g's in cash, swoop that up.

 

A theft title is equivalent to a salvage title imo. Whatever is left of the car is auctioned off(if you don't buy it back) and some of the small dealerships will buy them and restore them to stock. There are a bunch of these places down here where I live that do this. Other places like junkyards will buy them for parts. There are even junkyards that work with or have the same owners as these small dealerships so they can get parts to restore the cars. There is probably nothing wrong with the car as long as it wasn't wrecked in the getaway.

 

id go for it, but it wouldnt hurt to start off lower

 

salvage title.

 

Is a salvage title really that bad?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lucidelementa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is a salvage title really that bad? </TD></TR></TABLE>

to some its the end of the world ... salvage title isnt bad.... people will tell u CAN'T get a loan,or insurance blah blah blah... Thats all BS if u pass inspection and have proof it was repaired to original condition! i personally think a Theft recovered car is gods gift to auto customzing...

 

saying a theft recovery title and salvage title is the same is pretty stupid! I would not have a problem buying a theft recovery because that is just when someone stole all the **** out of the car and that can be replaced but a salvaged car could look normal but the frame could be fucked up and you not even know it. apples and oranges if u ask me!

 

apples and oranges except for the fact that at the dmv there is only either clean title, or salvaged (which both theft and severe wreck are included).

 

How bout dem apples! I say go for it, it sounds like a good price. Cant hurt to start off a little low

 

yeah I would just make sure they haven't done a half *** job on repairing it. And the milage thing you can't trust it because, I bet you since the car was stolen motor was yanked, tranny was yanked, gauge cluster and all this **** was yanked. At least that's what I would do if I was stupid enough to steal a car.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by electric-boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">saying a theft recovery title and salvage title is the same is pretty stupid! I would not have a problem buying a theft recovery because that is just when someone stole all the **** out of the car and that can be replaced but a salvaged car could look normal but the frame could be fucked up and you not even know it. apples and oranges if u ask me!</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm just stating what I observed having worked with both junkyards and small dealerships.

When I crashed my car the insurance company was going to total it. It would have been given a salvaged title. Their reasoning was the cost to repair it was more than the car was worth. The only damage was to the suspension, axle, LCA's etc. I replaced the parts and it's as good as new. I've gone to dealerships to deliver parts for a car they were restoring. They would have theft titles and have front end damage, usually the bumper, supports and headlights. I'm not sure how the titling works, if it depends on who buys it, but what I stated above was my opinion that I have formed after seeing what I have seen. That's why I said "IMO". That's also why I said, "THERE IS PROBABLY NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CAR AS LONG AS IT WASN'T WRECKED IN THE GETAWAY".

I don't think there is anything wrong with buying either a salvaged or theft titled car. I have the junkyards on the look out for a TT Supra for me as long as the frame isn't bent. I'll end up paying 12K plus the cost of repairs versus 30K for a used one. The reason I'm doing this is because I don't plan on selling it. With a theft title how do you know if it wasn't crashed during a cop chase unless you ask.

I totally agree with you JDMisGOOD. My advice if it will be a project car is to go to the auctions yourself and buy it. You'll get it way cheaper and you can basically start from scratch the way you want to. If it will be a daily driver just be smart and ask questions about what happened to it. There are places down here who restore auto thefts and I wouldn't hesitate to buy from them because they do such a great job. I mean the cars when they are finished look like they just rolled off the factory line, they even have that new car smell.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Lucidelementa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guys, im new here, so yeah hey. Well I found a 1999 Civic Si in Tucson, Az with 49,000 miles on it. It has a theft title though , the guy who owns it now put in a B16a2 from a 2000 Si, and he put in a 2000 spec Si interior. The engine/transmission has 49,000 miles on it, the chassis milage is unknown . It's going for $7,800, which I think is reasonable. But what do you guys think? I'm going to test drive it tomorrow, anything i should look out for? Thanks for your input. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yea i was also wondering isnt b16a2 in all 99-00? whats the difference between 99 and 00 Si interior? Any chance you can see really if its a salvage title due to theft instead of accident?

 

Alot of ppl freak out when they see slvage title. All that means is that the cost to "repair" the car is more than or close to the value of the vehicle. This does not always mean the car has been wrecked or abused. Just like with any vehicle, use your head, know what to look for. I have seen plenety of "good" cars that have clean clear titles that have serious hidden damages. I have also seen some theft recoveries that have nothing more than a few broken interior parts. Just be smart about it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by upgraded &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alot of ppl freak out when they see slvage title. All that means is that the cost to "repair" the car is more than or close to the value of the vehicle. This does not always mean the car has been wrecked or abused. Just like with any vehicle, use your head, know what to look for. I have seen plenety of "good" cars that have clean clear titles that have serious hidden damages. I have also seen some theft recoveries that have nothing more than a few broken interior parts. Just be smart about it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

w3rd

 

good deal go for it

 

What I meant by a 2000 b16a2 was that he pulled a b16a2 from a 2000 Si and put it in the 1999 Si im considering to buy. He said he has had it for 2 years, with the 2000 engine he pulled out the tach and speedo etc, and it says 58k, it doesnt look that bad inside though he needs to do some odds and ends stuff... here is a pic of it.

http://images.autotrader.com/i...1.jpg

I saw the car in person today , the rims are more mellow than it looks, though I didn't take it for a test drive because the speedo and tach wasnt working, though I dont know why because the ecu, engine, transmission, and guages are from the same car....He said he's going to take it to Honda and going to get it fixed tomorrow

 

i would buy it its only a theft title so it hasn't been wrecked. but always try to talk the person down a little, that way if your planning to pay the price the dude is asking for, talk him down and put some money into it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by upgraded &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alot of ppl freak out when they see slvage title. All that means is that the cost to "repair" the car is more than or close to the value of the vehicle. This does not always mean the car has been wrecked or abused. Just like with any vehicle, use your head, know what to look for. I have seen plenety of "good" cars that have clean clear titles that have serious hidden damages. I have also seen some theft recoveries that have nothing more than a few broken interior parts. Just be smart about it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree totally

My car is a salvage title and after 150,000 miles the ONLY thing that gave me any problem was the starter died out at 145,000 miles.

Also before I got my salvage titled car I was considering getting this "clean title" civic but once I looked under the hood and under the body, I could see the car was in a terrible condition: serious oil leakage around the head gasket, damage oil pan, compression is at 130 PSI, tie rods slightly bent , small cracks in the rear subframe My salvage titled car looked better and performed better: spot less interior, engine compartment shows no oil leakage anywhere, compression was at 190 PSI

never judge a book by it's cover

BTW I don't have any problems getting insurance for my car

 

My friend bought a si with 95k miles on it for 8k. Someone stripped his car and insurance cut him a check for 11k.

I'd stay away from any salvage title or anything because you wont be able to sell it for anything. Just buy one with higher miles if you have to. Afterall it is a Honda.

 

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yea i was also wondering isnt b16a2 in all 99-00? whats the difference between 99 and 00 Si interior? Any chance you can see really if its a salvage title due to theft instead of accident? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Interior is the same except 2000's came with a cupholder insert.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crashN2u &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A theft title is equivalent to a salvage title imo. Whatever is left of the car is auctioned off(if you don't buy it back) and some of the small dealerships will buy them and restore them to stock. There are a bunch of these places down here where I live that do this. Other places like junkyards will buy them for parts. There are even junkyards that work with or have the same owners as these small dealerships so they can get parts to restore the cars. There is probably nothing wrong with the car as long as it wasn't wrecked in the getaway.</TD></TR></TABLE>

to add to that note check the core support see if its new or it has weld marks... look around under neeth the car real good.. beef the **** out of it..its a b16 its not going to blow up with a stock computer..(if its good)

 

my hatch is salvage and my coupe isnt but my hatch looks better then my coupe only thing that was missing on my hatch was the foam and collision bumper supports front and back.. that was it but hey weight reduction yea.. in my cx.. was light anyways.. lol buy it dude just check the work on the radiator support make sure the wheels dont butterfly or anything like that. and the wiring isnt all messed up in the engine bay no leaks and test drive it beat it up a bit.

 

Just looked at the picture....looks like the front end has been messed with. Better look at your subframe in the front because it could have been in a front end crash. These frames bend so easily. That's definitely not a stock front bumper.