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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 04:07 AM
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Default poll: please vote - light weight magnesium valve cover?

For quite some time people speculated/imagined/assumed the Mugen valve cover was Mg. because it retails for something around 800-900... People have since then confirmed it's pricey only because it's a Mugen part.

A real Mg valve cover would be 1/2 or maybe about 1/3 weight of the al. Would you buy a Mg. valve cover?

Pricey depends on volume and to cast Mg. requires a large tooling cost up front. Does this item need to be produced in limited numbers?! Or does the fact that it is an exotic material make it special already?

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keep it under $300 ; mass produce it and share it with everyone

keep it under $600 ; limit the production to keep it special

keep it under $900 ; very limited batch and reserve it for tha true stunna's

thanks to all who have voted for your input. note i put this topic in the appearance/cosmetic forum. if we were to develop forged suspension compoents it would be a bigger under taking with a different target audience... keep the votes coming thank you.


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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 04:11 AM
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saving weight on a valve cover is a bit silly.. valve cover does nothing. Put the r&d into front lca's, trailing arms, subframe bars, rad support... i mean.. stuff that matters..
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 04:14 AM
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Isn't Magnesium a metal that's actually flammable and is hard to put out?
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 04:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokeAssPinoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't Magnesium a metal that's actually flammable and is hard to put out? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Correct.
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokeAssPinoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't Magnesium a metal that's actually flammable and is hard to put out? </TD></TR></TABLE>


hard to start as well...
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokeAssPinoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't Magnesium a metal that's actually flammable and is hard to put out? </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL!
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 09:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokeAssPinoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't Magnesium a metal that's actually flammable and is hard to put out? </TD></TR></TABLE>

no no no, thats only USDM Mg....
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokeAssPinoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't Magnesium a metal that's actually flammable and is hard to put out? </TD></TR></TABLE>

magnesium....forged ALLOY

you'd need such a high heat to ignite the magnesium in these wheels you'd melt other non-magnesium wheels first.
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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Default Re: light weight magnesium valve cover? (ghettoracer)

Instead of saving a few pounds here and there, I'd rather add a few HP here and there
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BrokeAssPinoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't Magnesium a metal that's actually flammable and is hard to put out? </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you're worried about it catching on fire, don't.

Magnesium in small parts, i.e. shavings are easily lighted. However, a solid ingot of magnesium, i.e. valve cover is stable and safe.
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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OMG.GHETTORACER.HI.2.U!K.THX.BYE
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Old Sep 4, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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Wouldn't a part made out of magnesium be better for the car as unsprung weight in the form of wheels?
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 02:15 AM
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the weight saving is to minimal to meritt a price any where near 300
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 02:49 AM
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hehe.. its just a dumb idear.. put the r&d twords actual weight savings, and usefull stuff... a valve cover is a valve cover.
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Old Sep 5, 2004 | 05:59 AM
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wasnt their a rim company that stopped production of mag rims due to explosion in factory ?
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 08:05 AM
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yea its true, i think it was in the late 90's like 98-99, around that time
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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i'd buy it for like 100 dollars if I could have custom lettering on it like "IN THE BUTT 4 LYFE!"
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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Forged Mag rims are commonly sold for motorcycles but are generally specified for race use only - I think maybe they dent easier than forged aluminum.

Anyway I would buy a lightweight mag VC for 400 or less. Bare mag is a cool color just clearcoat it. And no lettering.
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 08:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DewMota &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">saving weight on a valve cover is a bit silly.. valve cover does nothing. Put the r&d into front lca's, trailing arms, subframe bars, rad support... i mean.. stuff that matters..</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 08:51 AM
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I have a Mugen valve cover and it's never caught on fire.

edit: reading owns me, Mugen = not magnesium but rather made from a metal called Unobtainium.


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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 09:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DewMota &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Put the r&d into front lca's, trailing arms, subframe bars, rad support... i mean.. stuff that matters..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Front LCAs and trailing arms - when is someone gonna do this!? I know Competition Engineering has front LCAs but they're drag only (they told me not to go around corners w/them) and have no swaybar mounts. Radiator support would be sick too, and not real hard. ****, maybe its time to go see my fab guy...
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 10:18 PM
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You could save that much weight by wearing a thinner pear of socks for christs sakes!
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Old Sep 12, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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Well a lightweight plastic one would be cheap as hell and light as hell, valve cover weight=negligible
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Old Sep 13, 2004 | 01:13 AM
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**** if ur that concerned about weight. just drag your car naked. all the clothes and shoes gotta add up to at least 5-6lbs. dont forget to drop off the kids b4 u go to the track to..lol
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Old Sep 27, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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Default Re: poll: please vote - light weight magnesium valve cover? (ghettoracer)

A valve cover like that is not going to sell unless its got some big brand name on it(mugen, spoon, JUN, etc).
People arent going to spend $300-$900 for the 2lbs weight savings alone.
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