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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 06:23 PM
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Default 427 @ 10psi & 515 @ 15psi...

I just came back from tuning a customers car at the Dyno. Here is a spec sheet:

-92-95 Civic Hatchback
-fully built LSVTEC
-84mm pistons (9:1)
-Garrett GT35R turbo
-full race style manifold
-Crane turbo cams
-Edelbrock manifold
-BBK throttlebody
-MSD 1000cc/min injectors
-Hondata
-Quaife LSD and upgraded axles, etc...

At 10psi, we made 427.8 whp & 286.0 ft.lbs of torque.

At 15psi, we made 514.8 whp & 347.9 ft.lbs of torque.

Boost was limited due to the presence of a 7psi wastegate spring. How does this stack of against other 10 & 15psi runs - i.e. what power levels have been seen at those boost levels?

All the work was done at Speedtech Racing Development in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. (www.speedtechracing.com) Not too bad for a Canada car hey




Modified by XES at 12:16 AM 9/2/2004
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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I swear ls vtec's creates the most impressive numbers
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I swear ls vtec's creates the most impressive numbers </TD></TR></TABLE>

Its gotta be the 84mm slugs
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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holy **** those are great numbers
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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post the sheet man, thats awesome
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 07:11 PM
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Wow, I wonder if you guys are going to blow away the old record for the fastest FWD car in alberta? Fastest is the prodrag civic with a MIND BOGGLING 12.2 @ 118 MPH. Pathetic, no FWD cars in the 11's. Probably the first 400 WHP honda and the first 500 WHP honda in Alberta. Pretty nice on pump gas too
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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chip: BC aint that far behind you guys lol the fastest civics here are in the mid 11's

but anyways nice numbers! got a setup similar to that but with a lil more compression
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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Youre getting full boost by what RPM?Those are great numbers.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DouLik Industries &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">chip: BC aint that far behind you guys lol the fastest civics here are in the mid 11's

but anyways nice numbers! got a setup similar to that but with a lil more compression </TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't live in Alberta anymore, although I still have Family all around there. I'm coming up next summer, I'll have my 2.3 stroker done and in, probably a bigger turbo, and I'll be ready to wreak a little havoc on the streets

Things I miss about AB: Free hockey on outdoor rinks, drinking legally at 18, family, healthcare.

Things I don't miss about AB: Paying 5900 dollars a year insurance on a Civic with no tickets, no accidents, no insurance claims etc, god damn cold weather, shitty gas prices, shitty prices on parts, etc

all in all the benefits of leaving outweighed the negatives

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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow, I wonder if you guys are going to blow away the old record for the fastest FWD car in alberta? Fastest is the prodrag civic with a MIND BOGGLING 12.2 @ 118 MPH. Pathetic, no FWD cars in the 11's. Probably the first 400 WHP honda and the first 500 WHP honda in Alberta. Pretty nice on pump gas too </TD></TR></TABLE>

I am in Alberta...and 3 years ago I made over 500whp in a non-Vtec Honda. At 350whp I even ran a 12.3 in 2001. And yes there is a FWD Daytona here that ran 11's already. If there is good driving behind the car and the small slicks hookup then there is no doubt he should trap very fast.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:19 PM
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damn good numbers at 10psi & 15. I hope to hit 4XXwhp this sat on my built ls /vtec. Whoever says ls vtec is worthless just look at the numbers
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:25 PM
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those are good numbers no doubt, but is this good for racing 515whp@9.5K rpms??? 170whp@6K rpms??? 250whp@7K rpms??? would that be fast???
you answer it!!!

dyno graph would help!!!


never seen anyone with 15psi make over 500whp.... amazing.. lets ask FULL-Race.....
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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holy shitballs

i cant wait to but the gt35 on my y8
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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jeasus those r some awesome numbers created w/ a canteloupe turbo... so hows traction w/ that ???
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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were you running pump gas or race gas?My friend is running an lsvtec here in colorado springs co and put out 413whp on 13psi on 91 octane.Damn good numbers!!!
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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awesome numbers!!!!!
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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damn...and i thought my 300whp at 10psi was something to brag about...maybe it's the turbo? maybe it's the vtec? maybe it's the 84mm? maybe it's the full race setup? maybe it's all of that...lol. great numbers
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 09:29 PM
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omg nice *** numbers
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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Those are some badass numbers. But one question, the torque is less than I would think in proportion to the HP numbers. Did the tuner approach the power delivery in a unique way?
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Default Re: 427 @ 10psi & 515 @ 15psi... (DC2)

As you can see the dyno is now posted. To answer a few of the questions so far:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nicholashang87 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those are good numbers no doubt, but is this good for racing 515whp@9.5K rpms</TD></TR></TABLE>
As you can see by the dyno graph, the power is still on the climb at both 10 and 15 psi. The owner wants to stay on the safe side and shift at 7500rpm...so I only dyno tuned it to ~7700rpm.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spoolindc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so hows traction w/ that ???</TD></TR></TABLE>
As expected traction is non-existent, as will all light high hp cars. With over 400whp at the base boost setting the only way you can control the car is by not pushing the gas all the way .

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AFFIRMED &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">were you running pump gas or race gas?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sorry I forgot to mention that the power was made on C-16. On pump gas I believe we make 395 @ 10psi instead of 425, but that was a different day with less tuning.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...the torque is less than I would think in proportion to the HP numbers. Did the tuner approach the power delivery in a unique way? </TD></TR></TABLE>
The torque is similar to what we have made at similar boost levels on other B-series motors...it is the horsepower that is higher than expected. The power delivery is not tuned any different than all the cars I work with.
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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good job eh!
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 10:35 PM
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Damn, Canada is coming up somethin decent! Thats two bad *** set ups in like two days!

Can I ask you what the specs are on the GT35R? what turbine housing and compressor housing are you running?
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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damn, that is impressive as hell at those boost levels
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 11:00 PM
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Wow those numbers are awsome
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Old Sep 1, 2004 | 11:24 PM
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damn, thats pretty damn good...sad how a 2 liter motor is capable of putting out more horses than a vette...
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