ok i figured out that i have stage 3 crower cams but the engine sounds like they are stock cams when i got it tunned that the dyno went flat at 180 it didnt keep climbing the tunners said i had stock ones when i just checked and ran the part # through crower.com and they came up as stage three cams

 

where did you check the part # off of? cams themselves? are you running a stock airbox? if so that would quiet the cams down.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 99skunkedSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where did you check the part # off of? cams themselves? are you running a stock airbox? if so that would quiet the cams down.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Speaking of that.

I have stage 1 (skunks) on my car, I was always wondering why they were so quite. I had the stock air box, I just put in a CAI and good god damn !! its like 10 times louder.

But I likes

 

Thats because Crower stage 3 cams are smaller than skunks stage 2 cams.

 

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Speaking of that.

I have stage 1 (skunks) on my car, I was always wondering why they were so quite. I had the stock air box, I just put in a CAI and good god damn !! its like 10 times louder.

But I likes </TD></TR></TABLE>

cams don't really affect the way the car "sounds" more of how it idles and runs

 

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cams don't really affect the way the car "sounds" more of how it idles and runs

</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poorman-type-r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i figured out that i have stage 3 crower cams but the engine sounds like they are stock cams when i got it tunned that the dyno went flat at 180 it didnt keep climbing the tunners said i had stock ones </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep.. Thats what he said.. Whats your point??


You need to tell us more about your set up such as cam gear settings, timing etc.

 

My car sounds and idles like stock with my S2S2 cams!

 

ok my point is that when they tunned the motor theey said that u can tell when acar has aftermarket cams from the dyno graph and they said i have stock cams i got the part # off the cams themselves i just want to know if ineed to get my motor rebuilt to get its full power cuz i my leakdown test was bad
my setup
b20/vtec
12.5 pistons
stage 3 crower cams
str: cam gears fuel rail tb
skunk2: im
leak down test 81 79 89 83 1234cyl.
rev valve tarain
only made 180hp was expecting at least 220

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Manuel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When I had stock CTR cam's it was making a lot of noes when i whodwe puch Vtec </TD></TR></TABLE>

Huh...?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poorman-type-r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok my point is that when they tunned the motor theey said that u can tell when acar has aftermarket cams from the dyno graph and they said i have stock cams i got the part # off the cams themselves i just want to know if ineed to get my motor rebuilt to get its full power cuz i my leakdown test was bad
my setup
b20/vtec
12.5 pistons
stage 3 crower cams
str: cam gears fuel rail tb
skunk2: im
leak down test 81 79 89 83 1234cyl.
rev valve tarain
only made 180hp was expecting at least 220
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I didn't see anything in your mod list about headwork (pnp), what fuel management you're running, what timing is set at, what plugs you are running, what size intank fuel pump, what size injectors, etc...? Those numbers look about right if all you truly have is what you wrote above... I think you're expectations were just set a little too high, especially if you're on pump gas...

 

310cc rc injectors not shure about pnp i bought the shell with half tank so dont know if it has 93 octane ngk plugs i dont know what my timming was set at i wasnt there when they tunned it (intercrew)
tunned vafc i didnt build the motor i bought it like that it was dynoed before 212 beforee the cams i know i didnt set my expectations to high stock b20/vtec has anywhere from 180-190

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poorman-type-r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">310cc rc injectors not shure about pnp i bought the shell with half tank so dont know if it has 93 octane ngk plugs i dont know what my timming was set at i wasnt there when they tunned it (intercrew)
tunned vafc i didnt build the motor i bought it like that it was dynoed before 212 beforee the cams i know i didnt set my expectations to high stock b20/vtec has anywhere from 180-190 </TD></TR></TABLE>


Yeah, but 12.5:1 compression on pump and VAFC...? Ditch the VAFC, get Hondata and a 255lph intank fuel pump...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Manuel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When I had stock CTR cam's it was making a lot of noes when i whodwe puch Vtec </TD></TR></TABLE>

you sir, should be deported

 

yeah i know hondata is better but ive seen 200+ motors tunned with vafc thats all i could afford for know oh and before when the motor was in the other car it was tunned with vafc

 

THis is obvious, you don't throw aftermarket cams in a car, then leave them without adjusting the timing, or having it tuned. It's not an external bolt on, don't treat it that way.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22A-AllMotor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">THis is obvious, you don't throw aftermarket cams in a car, then leave them without adjusting the timing, or having it tuned. It's not an external bolt on, don't treat it that way.</TD></TR></TABLE>
it was just tunned

 

ok heres list of all my crap in my motor then tell me if 180hp is to low
THE LIST
CROWER STAGE 3 CAMS
DUAL VALVE SPRINGS (REV)
RATAINERS (REV)
VALVES(REV)
THE HEAD WAS BUILT BY REV FOR BUILD
THE BLOCK
JE 12:1 PISTONS
DARTON SLEEVED
BLOCK GARD
EAGAL RODS
SI TRANNY FINAL DRIVE GEAR
NEW CLUTCH MASTERS
AIR
SKUNK 2 INTAKE MANIFOLD
STR THROTTLE BODDY
FUEL
RC 310CC INJECTORS
STR FUEL RAIL
STR CAM GEARS
TYPE R HEADER
COMPUTER
P28 CHIPPED
HEAD GASKET COMEIC



Modified by poorman-type-r at 6:57 PM 9/1/2004

 

60LBS fuel pressure????!!!! have you had it to the dyno??????are you puffing black smoke?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by daidilus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">60LBS fuel pressure????!!!! have you had it to the dyno??????are you puffing black smoke?</TD></TR></TABLE>oh thats the only thing that i dont have any more

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poorman-type-r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
DARTON SLEEVED

BLOCK GARD

Modified by poorman-type-r at 6:57 PM 9/1/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>


So the block is sleeved, and you have a block guard... Hmmmm...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by poorman-type-r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

leak down test 81 79 89 83 1234cyl.

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that is 20% loss in the cylinders...isnt that bad? when I did mine, the guy I borrowed the tester from said that wasnt good and needed a rebuild (luckily mine was good)

 

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So the block is sleeved, and you have a block guard... Hmmmm...

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i just copyed the list that was posted on ebay when i bought it so dont try to make it seem like im lying


Modified by poorman-type-r at 9:32 PM 9/1/2004


Modified by poorman-type-r at 9:33 PM 9/1/2004


Modified by poorman-type-r at 12:16 AM 9/3/2004

 

ttt

 

bump

 

so your gonna sue the guy even though you knew the engine was used, and you knew it was probably beat on? good luck getting that to hold up in court. doesnt ebay even have a little thing about caveat emptor at the bottom of their auctions or something.

 

You can't sue the guy because you bought a turd!! If you did a little more research you would know what to look for!!