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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 07:15 AM
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how can i find out if my h22a is a type s or not? here ar the numbers from under the h22a stamp on the block if it helps...

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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 07:26 AM
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check the back of the block. If it is a Type S engine, it should have "P5P" stamped on it. If it isn't then it might have "P13" or "P5M."
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 07:30 AM
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what color is the valve cover?
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 07:37 AM
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STOCK WAS RED

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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 07:48 AM
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looks like somebody painted your black valve cover red

here's what it should look like
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 08:30 AM
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^^ actually looks more orange than red.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22Power_521 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^ actually looks more orange than red.</TD></TR></TABLE>

either way it's not a type-s motor
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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it was dark red until someone let degreaser sit on it for wayyyyyy to long
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 10:14 AM
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Dude, your engine bay is like totally baren...isnt there supposed to be more in there?
Whats up with that?
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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umm... its in a 95 civic hatch w/o ac or power-steering

i dont see why it looks bare
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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he took out the ac sys, took out power steering, relocated the battery and went with a smaller radiator. gets rid of weight.
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 10:54 AM
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isnt there any way to tell by the number under the h22a stamp???
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Old Aug 30, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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Whoever said the engine bay looks barren is a dork. the motor is obviously in a EG Civic
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 07:47 AM
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can anyone help me with this????????
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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My Type-S block stamp looks like this.



Yours does not. You do not have a Type-S engine.
You can do a compression check too and you should get WAY more than 200PSI across the board if you do not believe me. A red(ish) valvecover does not imbue your engine with magical Type-S powers.

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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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my stamp looks the exact same only these are the numbers

h22a
1153777

and i never said i have a type-s motor.. i was just wondering.

so i take it there is no other way to find out???
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 01:15 PM
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First off have you bothered to look at ANYTHING in the Prelude essential links sticky or FAQ at the top of the forum? What year is your engine? Do you have any dynos for it? Do you have any compression numbers? Is it OBD1 or OBD2? What transmission do you have? Is it the one that came with the engine swap? What is the lift on the cams? What do the pistons look like? What are their markings? What OTHER markings are on your block and head? Is your intake plenum one set of runners are is it two? What is your throttlebody diameter? Answer those and I am sure I could tell you if it is a Type-S or not.

But really SEARCH and you fine a **** load of information on the Type-S engine. Look in the archives. Take a lot of the ones about the cams with a grain of salt and sort of the bullshit from the fact for yourself.

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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PirateMcFred &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can do a compression check too and you should get WAY more than 200PSI across the board if you do not believe me. </TD></TR></TABLE>

That does not tell him anything. Stock JDM h22a (non-type s) should be a lot over 200 psi.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogixxer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That does not tell him anything. Stock JDM h22a (non-type s) should be a lot over 200 psi. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Um, how about no? A stock Jdm h22a should be getting 200-210 psi.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogixxer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That does not tell him anything. Stock JDM h22a (non-type s) should be a lot over 200 psi. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well I could tell him that he should be gettin gabout 190 psi at ****** 5500 feet elevation. Would that be better? I gave him a Pic and asked for info so WTF are you offering?

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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 06:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22A-AllMotor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Um, how about no? A stock Jdm h22a should be getting 200-210 psi.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, I compression tested two that had more. compression is a weak way to try to tell the difference.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PirateMcFred &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well I could tell him that he should be gettin gabout 190 psi at ****** 5500 feet elevation. Would that be better? I gave him a Pic and asked for info so WTF are you offering?

Pirate
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If the motor is not seal correctly, it will not give "way over" 200 psi and it would still be a type-s. A small amount of blow-by will lower the number.
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 06:19 PM
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I don't care about the Type S / non t-s comparison. I'm telling you what the average compression test results are for a stock H22a1 vtec(non type s).
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by turbogixxer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If the motor is not seal correctly, it will not give "way over" 200 psi and it would still be a type-s. A small amount of blow-by will lower the number. </TD></TR></TABLE>

if the leakdown test is solid (10% or less blow by) more than likely the
compression #'s should be fairly accurate, and a type-s motor would yeild
higher #'s than 200-210psi

gonna half to back the Pirate on this one
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 06:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by H22A-AllMotor &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't care about the Type S / non t-s comparison. I'm telling you what the average compression test results are for a stock H22a1 vtec(non type s).</TD></TR></TABLE>

No two motors are the same. Type s can have lower PSI (compression test) than any other motor. Compression is not a good way to see if it is any motor. No way no how.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SKDRCR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if the leakdown test is solid (10% or less blow by) more than likely the
compression #'s should be fairly accurate, and a type-s motor would yeild
higher #'s than 200-210psi

gonna half to back the Pirate on this one
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Like I said before, if it is sealing right. No means is compression test or leakdown test a good way to see if the motor is the type-s or any other motor. WAY too many things can change the numbers (aka Higher compression pistons in a regular H22a, not sealing, etc). It will see the condition of the motor, not the differences (within reason).
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Old Aug 31, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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This is a cheapest way to build a type s

but seriously.. it works/looks pretty good. black, blue and red (maybe more?)
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