wat do u pple recomend which is better and wat kind shud i get im talkin a set of coilovers or springs for about 140 shipped which is bettter and wat brand???

 

i say springs, even shitty springs will ride better than top notch coilovers. I know because I have done about 12 different suspensions.

 

if i could go back, i would go with some springs and some adjustable shocks...

 

why do springs ride better than coilovers?

 

haha..i find it kind of funny that people ask these kind of question, but i use to do it too so it's ok, to me it's differant fo everybody, some people dont mind the bounciness of the coil-over and love the way they handle but some people would rather suffer the handling quality and get better ride for daily driving. To me, i went throw two set of springs and went to coil-over, yes spring were a very comfortable ride but coil-over just takes it in handling wise, btw i'm ridin tein ss, they ride good.

 

it rides better due to the spring rates, usually springs are alot lower spring rates from coil-overs.

 

thanks for clearing that up sir

 

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just ask yourself if you are looking for handling or comfort, eibach sportline springs are a nice drop and isnt too bouncy

 

coilovers ride like **** cause no matter if u have them torqued to stock or 4" they still have the exact same spring rate. which makes it bounce

I have Skunk 2 2 1/4" springs and i love them
they are bouncy on the interstate but they ride soooooo smooth
they cost me 129 shipped from nopi. Granted i get everything at cost

 

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this kind of statement is a little presumptuous without proof...what springs, coilovers, struts were used in these suspsensions? a lot of factors play into the quality of ride you get from either, not to mention what the intent of the setup was for (eg drag, race, street, etc.)

 

ive got sportlines and i love em. i just put in tokico illumina shocks and its a little bit bouncy, but not much different from stock. my sportlines dropped LOWlow and i love it. but the shocks brought it back up.

 

What would be a good choice if u wanted stock like (this is for a JDM ITR) ride quality with a bit of drop where u can still adjust the height of the car???

 

I'd go with reg. drop springs, once installed u don't ever have to touch them again.

 

i prefer coilovers. more stiffer, better handling. put it with nice shocks so you eliminate the repeated bouncing.

ground control coilovers/koni yellows

 

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Also most springs are progressive, meaning they become more stiff the more you compress them so they aren't so bouncy when you are just driving around town.

 

H&R race springs and koni yellows

 

ground control is wonderful for non-full customized set. I have them and the ride is great. They cost a little more but u get what u pay for

 

neuspeed race springs for me.

around 130 shipped.

 

im about to go with yellows and race springs

still undecided on camber kit.

 

You guys seem to have "stiff" and/or "bumpy" ride confused with "bouncy" ride.

The ride will be bouncy if your shocks are gone, causing the suspension to continue to pitch up and down after hitting a bump or dip, because the shocks can't control the motion of the springs.

The ride will be stiff or bumpy if you have springs with high spring rates. If you have good shocks, the car will follow the contours of the ground. If the wheels go over a bump or a dip, the car's body will follow the bump or dip, but the shocks will stop the up/down motion almost immediately after passing the bump or dip. It will feel bumpy, if the road is bumpy, but it will not be bouncy.

Now if you have high rate springs AND bad shocks (stock shocks or cheaper aftermarket shocks which can't handle the spring rates and have blown), well then the ride will be REALLY bad, bumpy AND bouncy at the same time.

I recently booted my H&R Sport springs on my Koni shocks in favor of Koni Ground Controls w/ 380/450 lb springs. It's ALOT stiffer than it was before, but the car does not pitch or roll over uneven surfaces NEAR as much as it did w/ the H&R's. The H&R's also had dropped my car around 3", but the relatively soft spring rate could not keep my rear shocks off the bumpstops, which eventually caused the rear bumpstops to disintegrate into dust (partly because I did not trim them, since H&R said not to).

Good coilovers w/ good shocks

Too soft springs that drop the car too much

 

WEll, I want coilovers because they can be adjustable.

I want my car higher in the winter, and lower in the summer,

can springs do that?

 

I have H&R springs on my car, stock shocks and i dont really like the H&R springs. They provide a rough ride, i dont really notice that much difference in handling and every once n a while they squeak like hell. The only thing nice about them is they lowered the car to a nice height, so it looks good but im more for function over fashion. Any ideas of what i could do to improve?

 

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I want my car higher in the winter, and lower in the summer,

can springs do that?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Keep in mind that your alignment changes whenever you change the ride height. So you would need to have the car aligned every time you change the ride height, otherwise the out-of-spec toe will eat the tires to shreds.

 

i have h&r with agx and the drop is low and fock. i have like a 2.25 front and 2.0 back. not a great ride. the shocks dont have much room to work. im gunna try GC's after i sell my h&r.

 

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Keep in mind that your alignment changes whenever you change the ride height. So you would need to have the car aligned every time you change the ride height, otherwise the out-of-spec toe will eat the tires to shreds.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I didn't not know that... damn alignment costed like $100 one time... I gotta do it twice a year.... I gotta rethink if i should just get spring or coilover. now.