Guys give me a hand.
So I keep going back and forth with my bottom end build of my B18c1.
I am now looking into just going with some OS Jdm ITR pistons (have herd they are very difficult to come by). OR maybe some PR3 or P30. I am looking to get my compression to around 11.5:1. What are your opinions on each? do I need different rods for the PR3 or P30 pistons?
I also have a GSR head with all itr interals. Itr valves, itr valvesprings, and retainers. Skunk2 stage 1 cams , skunk 2 IM and bored out throttle body.
If im running 11.5:1 compression I would want to get some Stage 2 cams. I have been told that my ITR springs will not hold up. Too much coilbind. What valve springs would be good for this setup? Do i need to upgrade my fuel system? IE injectors and pump? I do plan on getting hondata.
I am now looking into just going with some OS Jdm ITR pistons (have herd they are very difficult to come by). OR maybe some PR3 or P30. I am looking to get my compression to around 11.5:1. What are your opinions on each? do I need different rods for the PR3 or P30 pistons?
I also have a GSR head with all itr interals. Itr valves, itr valvesprings, and retainers. Skunk2 stage 1 cams , skunk 2 IM and bored out throttle body.
If im running 11.5:1 compression I would want to get some Stage 2 cams. I have been told that my ITR springs will not hold up. Too much coilbind. What valve springs would be good for this setup? Do i need to upgrade my fuel system? IE injectors and pump? I do plan on getting hondata.
Injectors no, but you may want to get a better fpr, and if you have a zillion miles on the car, it wouldn't hurt to get a walbro 190 pump to replace the original. get a a/f guage for tuning if you don't have one already.
Hondata S200 would be a great choice for engine management. Your stock fuel injectors should be fine, however I would recommend an adjustable FPR. Your stock fuel pump will also be fine, but you may want to consider upgrading or replacing if you have higher mileage. A Walbro 255lph pump would be my choice. As for rods/pistons if you do not want to go the forged route then the P30 pistons will yield a C/R around 11.5:1 with your GsR head and will fit on your P72 rods. 11.5:1 C/R would also be my compression choice in a pump gas street driven N/A setup
. As for the cams I would definitely upgrade to the Skunk2 Stage 2's with the higher compression ratio to maximize your engines potential. I would recommend Skunk2 valvesprings and retainers as well. The ITR valvesprings will be pushed pretty hard with the Stage 2 cams.
. As for the cams I would definitely upgrade to the Skunk2 Stage 2's with the higher compression ratio to maximize your engines potential. I would recommend Skunk2 valvesprings and retainers as well. The ITR valvesprings will be pushed pretty hard with the Stage 2 cams.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GsRBABY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hondata S200 would be a great choice for engine management. Your stock fuel injectors should be fine, however I would recommend an adjustable FPR. Your stock fuel pump will also be fine, but you may want to consider upgrading or replacing if you have higher mileage. A Walbro 255lph pump would be my choice. As for rods/pistons if you do not want to go the forged route then the P30 pistons will yield a C/R around 11.5:1 with your GsR head and will fit on your P72 rods. 11.5:1 C/R would also be my compression choice in a pump gas street driven N/A setup
. As for the cams I would definitely upgrade to the Skunk2 Stage 2's with the higher compression ratio to maximize your engines potential. I would recommend Skunk2 valvesprings and retainers as well. The ITR valvesprings will be pushed pretty hard with the Stage 2 cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>
255 is overkill. save it for the turbo in your avatar.
. As for the cams I would definitely upgrade to the Skunk2 Stage 2's with the higher compression ratio to maximize your engines potential. I would recommend Skunk2 valvesprings and retainers as well. The ITR valvesprings will be pushed pretty hard with the Stage 2 cams. </TD></TR></TABLE>255 is overkill. save it for the turbo in your avatar.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SuperSlow »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
255 is overkill. save it for the turbo in your avatar. </TD></TR></TABLE>
A 255lph pump may be overkill, but I like to believe there is no such thing as overkill when it comes to the safety of my engines.
255 is overkill. save it for the turbo in your avatar. </TD></TR></TABLE>
A 255lph pump may be overkill, but I like to believe there is no such thing as overkill when it comes to the safety of my engines.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GsRBABY »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A 255lph pump may be overkill, but I like to believe there is no such thing as overkill when it comes to the safety of my engines.</TD></TR></TABLE>
As I said,
Hondata S200
Skunk2 stage 2 cams
Replace the springs/retainers(you don't need duel springs)
As I said,
Hondata S200
Skunk2 stage 2 cams
Replace the springs/retainers(you don't need duel springs)
I know this is all a matter of the builder and tuner's capibilities, but with this setup you all are quoting, what types of #'s would you expect to see? could you use stage 3's with 11.5:1 CR or is that too low?
Skunk2 does not make stage 3 cams anymore, at least, not for certain series motors, all I know is that the highest stage cam for an h series is now a stage2.
And for that rate of compression I'd use stage 2's.
Depending on your previous setup, the skunk2 cam swap could produce as much as 11 additional whp.
And for that rate of compression I'd use stage 2's.
Depending on your previous setup, the skunk2 cam swap could produce as much as 11 additional whp.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cjohnson_2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do have a B&M FPR and guage.
And theres no way I'm running stage 3's. I believe stage 2's will be perfect for the setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And theres no way I'm running stage 3's. I believe stage 2's will be perfect for the setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cjohnson_2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do have a B&M FPR and guage.
And theres no way I'm running stage 3's. I believe stage 2's will be perfect for the setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what do you plan on doing with your stage 1 set up ?
And theres no way I'm running stage 3's. I believe stage 2's will be perfect for the setup.</TD></TR></TABLE>
what do you plan on doing with your stage 1 set up ?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slain »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what do you plan on doing with your stage 1 set up ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sell it of course!
what do you plan on doing with your stage 1 set up ?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Sell it of course!
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