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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 07:33 PM
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Ok heres the setup. I have an 89 zc DOHC engine. Here are my symptoms. First off before all this happnd my car would run but when it ran it would kinda bubble while idleing. I could here like a bubbling sound like no gas or something, and the RPM neddle would drop for a quick second. But finally when i drove around it stalled out on me and now it just wont start at all. Now when i took out the plugs and smelled each of the hole 2 smelled like gas really bad. And i dunno if this means anything but im leaking antifreeze(green stuff) pretty bad. And i have new plugs, wires, rotor, and cap, so that cant be it. Also i did a compression test and im not sure the exact numbers but there was one cylinder with a 5 sumthin and the rest had 7 sumthin. Gas is fine, and so is the battery. Its cranks but just doesnt start at all. I really need help its my only means of transportation. O ya i also have a crx hf ECU if that matters. Wrong ECU i know...
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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IMO, sounds like a blown head gasket.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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damn, so what do u suggest i do tow it and fix it or is there any possible way to get it running?, O ya i also already tried push starting it but didnt work.
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 05:13 AM
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 05:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Redline130 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMO, sounds like a blown head gasket.</TD></TR></TABLE>

With a "5" and a "7" there is definatley a loss in compression somewhere. Are you overheating? Burning white smoke, water in oil? If not.. Oil fouled plugs? Have you checked the ignition system?
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 05:48 AM
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Did you have coolant on the plugs? Is that what you said? Then yes...blown head gasket. If your plugs are not wet with coolant, it's more than likely the rings. Pour like a teaspoon of oil down each cylinder after you take the plug out , and do another compression test. If it's the rings the compression will come up. When you did the first test, did it creep down after the needle went to "5"something. Did it stay at that , or did the needle start dropping slowly? That's a blown head gasket. THeres not enough compression for your car to start, so that's the reason for the fuel smell on the plugs. It's headgasket and ring change time. It's not hard to do. just gotta take your time.
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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but dont I have to change every gasket? And its like 500$, o ya i didnt do the test, my stepdad did it, ill do one again, once i get the car towed to my house. Also i changed the plugs and the plugs did feel wet a lil, but i thought it was the humidity or sumthin.
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 02:38 PM
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Remove all 4 plugs at the same time and test the compression again.
(Don't remove one, test compression, repalce plug, remove the next...)
Do the teaspoon of oil like the other reply suggests.
Also, make sure to crank the engine over 3 or 4 times so the compression gauge needle comes all the way up.

Where are you loosing coolant from? Is it leaking from someplace or does it just seem to disappear?

Did you ever notice any smoking from the tailpipe?

Check ALL your grounds. Clean them up and try starting the car again.
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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well i noticed smoke just once, then it never happnd again, but the coolant i noticed was from under the car, i saw a huge puddle of it underneath the engine. Also when u say crank the engine 3 or 4 times u mean just attemp to start it a couple of times? And im gunna check all my grounds, well pretty much every wire i see.
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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well i did another compression test today, I added the oil like you guys said, and the compression was at 150, 150, 150, and 120, those arent exact numbers but its in that area, and after I added the oil the compression flew up to around 200. Its the rings right? Can someone please tell me how to replace them and like what id ask for at autozone or sumthin so i could get them?
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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Sounds like your rings are bad. I would use OEM Honda parts to replace the originals. You can either go to your local dealer or order them online. I'm pretty sure you can use 89 Integra rings.

http://www.acuraautomotiveparts.org
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 10:00 AM
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Not sure about the rings. You had cranked it over many times before and when you get gas into the cylinder that doesn't fire off then it runs down through the rings and cleans the oil from them. If that happened then you get low compression numbers.


Find out eactly where the water is leaking from.
Take a GOOD look at your hoses. Follow that water and find out exactly where it's coming from.
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