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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 11:31 AM
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Default 03 civic, D17A1 motor...what is an entry level swap to aquire vtec?

I have a friend who owns an 03 civic, he wants vtec, but doesn't want to go crazy on a k swap...so what are his best options?
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 11:55 AM
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D17A2, but its entirely not worth the trouble for 10 HP. Just buy a turbo.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 12:34 PM
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Couldn't of said it better.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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i think he posted in the wrong forum...if he has an si than he has a k20a3 with i-VTEC...otherwise if he has a dx or lx than its a non vtec
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 11:13 PM
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Default Re: 03 civic, D17A1 motor...what is an entry level swap to aquire vtec? (Huggy Bear)

A2 is the VTEC from the EX/Si(can)
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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Yea, it wouldn't really be worth it to swap in a D17A2 just for 10 HP and VTEC. I would also recommend just getting a GReddy Turbo kit, that will be a lot more effective than swapping the engine. But he's not gonna really find a good engine for that generation except for the K20A2, but like I said, it costs a lot of money and can cause a lot of headaches. Get the turbo.
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Default Re: 03 civic, D17A1 motor...what is an entry level swap to aquire vtec? (Huggy Bear)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Huggy Bear &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he already has VTEC</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 09:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Huggy Bear &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he already has VTEC</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats funny, i have a d17a1 in my 04 civic and it doesnt have vtec. thanks for the useless info
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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all Hondas now have a form of VTEC. Not saying it is the aggressive VTEC everyone knows of, but VTEC on those cars are for economy. And thus saying you want to acquire VTEC is dumb because technically, there is VTEC already.
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 10:05 PM
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its only on the HX(117hp)/EX/Si(canadian) 127hp.
LX/DX have the non-vtec model (115hp)!!!

best bet is custom turbo or get hasport mounts and go K-series
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Old Aug 25, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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Default Re: 03 civic, D17A1 motor...what is an entry level swap to aquire vtec? (Kal)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kal &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">all Hondas now have a form of VTEC. Not saying it is the aggressive VTEC everyone knows of, but VTEC on those cars are for economy. And thus saying you want to acquire VTEC is dumb because technically, there is VTEC already.</TD></TR></TABLE>

wow. just stop talking now, please.
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 05:01 AM
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we are making this more complicated than it needs to be...
this site helps... http://www.geocities.com/honda...s.htm
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Old Aug 26, 2004 | 10:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ragingSPAM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think he posted in the wrong forum...if he has an si than he has a k20a3 with i-VTEC...otherwise if he has a dx or lx than its a non vtec</TD></TR></TABLE>

ALL, i repeat, ALL civics from 2001 and newer have vtec. SI, EX, LX, DX it does not matter. they ALL have vtec.
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ponchep3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ALL, i repeat, ALL civics from 2001 and newer have vtec. SI, EX, LX, DX it does not matter. they ALL have vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no, they dont.

http://www.hondacars.com/model...Coupe

This is the same for 2001 and up. D17A1 is non- vtec, D17A2 is VTEC-E.

• 115-hp, 1.7-liter, 16-valve, SOHC 4-cylinder engine

• 127-hp VTEC® engine ..notice it says VTEC on the plug cover


PLEASE QUIT SPREADING THE MISINFORMATION!!!!
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ponchep3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ALL, i repeat, ALL civics from 2001 and newer have vtec. SI, EX, LX, DX it does not matter. they ALL have vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ummm I have a 04 DX and it does not have vtec. are you THAT ignorant?
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Old Aug 27, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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wow, this is embarassing...
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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sorry to bring thsi back from the dead, thought id rahter look this up first than post a new topic, but i have the same motor in a 4dr lx (02) and i was wondering if anyone had a list with possible motors around 150hp or more that could fit into this car, also looking to convert to manual.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 08:34 AM
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BUMP
anyone?
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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k series or turbo
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 03:10 PM
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if you don't wanna spend the money on a K series swap then your only other option is a EX head swap. It isn't worth it IMO on a sohc motor.

Besides, if you friend wants to swap just b/c he wants vtec, i suggest finding a new friend. Stay away from the ricers.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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Somebody said K20? which one? i throught there was like K20A etc, or will any of them fit?

I live in Southern FL if sum1 could tell me roguly how much it would be for a k20 swap and manual cnversion, parts, labor, everything. Any estimates are appreciated, trying to work a budget, see if i'll take waht i got and have a friend help me turbo it.

Also, what should i do internally if i turbo the stock motor? Looking for around 150whp (no clue about PSI etc)
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Old Jun 24, 2005 | 02:20 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rentacar4dr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Somebody said K20? which one? i throught there was like K20A etc, or will any of them fit?

I live in Southern FL if sum1 could tell me roguly how much it would be for a k20 swap and manual cnversion, parts, labor, everything. Any estimates are appreciated, trying to work a budget, see if i'll take waht i got and have a friend help me turbo it.

Also, what should i do internally if i turbo the stock motor? Looking for around 150whp (no clue about PSI etc)</TD></TR></TABLE>

k20a = ITR motor
k20a2 = Type S motor
k20a3 = SI motor

To swap a type s motor, you are looking at around $6,000-$8,000 depending on how cheap you get a motor and the shop doing the install.

You can easily get 200whp from a stock D17 motor on a stock bottom end. There is one person on 7thgen that dyno'ed at over 250whp on a stock bottom end.
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Old Jun 27, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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how much for a turbo install? full install, i took a look at a turbo install guide but some of that **** i dont know if i could do it. also would it take more then a day to get professional installation? and where can i get a decent turbo (even used) around $1500 (for a whole kit)
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buy my whole car thats on my signature
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