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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 10:06 AM
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Yesterday we installed the roll pin into the shift linkage. I think we got it right but now when we start the car and push the clutch in and put it in gear it doesn't do anything...not even die when you let off of the clutch? It will also roll back in forth when it is supposed to be in gear. The guy I bought the car from said it needs a "input bearing" but I have looked in the online helms manual that I found in the FAQ section and can't find anything with that name. If you know where this part is all your help would be greatly appreciated.

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When you push the clutch pedal to the floor it chatters REAL loud what would that be?
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 10:08 AM
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So it won't even go in to any gears correct ? If that is the case I can defintly tell you its not the input shaft bearing.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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No it will go into the gears....or what feels like the gears. It won't go anywhere and it rolls around while in gear with the car running with no one on the clutch pedal. It feels like you put it in a gear but I guess its in neutral.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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does the engine rev up? even if its in gear and the foot is off the clutch?

If so, readjust your clutch, its to far engaged and its not disengaging, hence forth its basically like your keeping your foot ont eh clutch pedal ALL THE TIME.....
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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Yes the engine revs up. We will adjust it then see whats going on
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 06:32 PM
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Well I adjusted it and it still does the same thing and won't move or die....

I'm getting so frustrated with it. I want to buy a new d series and throw that in there and have no problems getting to school.
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 06:35 PM
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sound like u got a fucked up tranny
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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here what i am thinking ...it could be bad synros (sp)
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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I thought syncros where bad when it starts grinding? I bought this car from a pretty good guy and all he said was it needs the "input bearing". I have looked the helms and haynes and can't find what the input bearing is but yeah...

Any other ideas?

Does anyone know where the input bearing is?
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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Okay, are you sure it didnt need a T/O bearing it sounds like the clutch is not disengaging, youll just have to figure out why, one, shift fork on the t/o bearing fucked up, the t/o bearing itself is fucked up, or yur shift linkage is not installed correctly.....

or you did not properly adjust it, it can get difficult to adjust somtimes
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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the reason u cant find the part in the manaul is its called a

input shaft bearing now a input bearing


maybe the clutch spring is broke?
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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You cant find a input bearing becuase our cars dont have one, if you would call it that you could say sure it does, but its recessed into the bell housing and you wont be replacing that, most rwd trannys have input bearings and are replaced when doing a clutch job.....

I dont know search for a clutch kit for your car chances are you wont find an input shaft bearing when you order a kit, when I had my clutch done in my first crx I got charged for pressure plate, clutch disc, t/o bearing, and resurafaced flywheel, no input shaft bearing....

besides the input shaft bearing will have no effect in your problem, to make it simple for you look at it this way, your engine is producing power, the clutch takes that power and holds it then applys it to the tranny, right now your clutch is just holding it and its not exerting the pressure*releasing from the engine* to the tranny, your in neutral perminantly.....
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 07:09 PM
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Oh and a friend called me up the other day and was complaining about the same thing, well somehow his intermediate shaft(you wont have one on a stock motor, they are on b-series) on his pass. side( driver side is our drive axle) had popped out he thought his tranny was fucked, snapped it back in, and hey what do ya know it works fine, and hasnt popped out since..the carrier needs both axles installed to drive the car correctly in forward or reverse

Id check your inner cv joints make sure they are still full seated....
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Old Aug 22, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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I could be proven wrong about the input shaft bearing, I dont konw everything thas for sure
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 06:18 AM
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I never took the tranny off to see what it needs. I just bought the car from a guy and he said it needed the input bearing and the roll pin needed to be put in the shift linkage. I put the roll pin in and I forgot all about the bearing. It started acting up and I pm'd him and asked him what else it needs and he told me.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kasper. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Okay, are you sure it didnt need a T/O bearing it sounds like the clutch is not disengaging, youll just have to figure out why, one, shift fork on the t/o bearing fucked up, the t/o bearing itself is fucked up, or yur shift linkage is not installed correctly.....

or you did not properly adjust it, it can get difficult to adjust somtimes </TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm pretty I adjusted it right....its the little plastic **** on top of the cable right?

He is the one who told me he put in a new throwout bearing also...so I'm assuming it doesn't need one or a clutch but I never asked.

Maybe I do need to check the axles....

Also the clutch cable is ran over the engine...I'm almost 100% positive that it isn't supposed to be ran over the valve cover like it is.
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Old Aug 23, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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Pull the trans and take a look. Maybe the guy that owned it before you must up on a clutch job and installed something wrong.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 06:17 AM
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Thats what I'm going to do when I get the time. Work is just offering me a lot of hours and I'm a college boy so I must work and work and work

I really don't know what I'm looking for though to see whats messed up or not. Oh well I'll figure it out

Hopefully it will be running before this coming up monday cause I won't have a ride to work anymore since my friend got a new job.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 02:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 90blackcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pull the trans and take a look. Maybe the guy that owned it before you must up on a clutch job and installed something wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I never touched the clutch. I replaced the tranny with a used one and replaced the T/O bearing with a brand new one.

To replace the input bearing, you have to drop the tranny, crack it open, and replace the bearing, just like I told you when you picked it up.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 06:02 PM
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Chris dude no need for an attitude I'm not bitching...

Just wondering what was wrong with it. You never told me what all had to be done to do it you just told me "roll pin and the input bearing" and that was it. Its all cool dude I'm not pissed I was told and expecting this.
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Old Aug 24, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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Not an attitude, but when you picked it up, I told you you would have to install the spring pin and replace the input bearing. You asked what was involved and I stated "drop tranny, crack tranny, replace bearing". Also told you the T/O bearing was replaced as you said. If I had a cable D series tranny lying around, I'd drive it out there to you for free as I didn't know what condition the tranny was in after installing it. Try posting this in the tech forum also.
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