Hey guys im wondering on what i need to swap my gsr suspension over to a itr 5 lug???

 

wtf do you want to do that for?

you will be increasing unsprung weight and limit your choice of wheels by 90%

 

Convert my gsr suspesion on my eg hatch to 5 lug man that why!!!!

 

these are the people we need to be worried about. not the thieves

 

wtf u guys talking bout ????
to the guy who wants to swap hes eg 4lug into a type r 5ug joikns

thats clean and all the people that tll u not to do it are just jelous they cant affford it.. unfortunalty im not sure what exactly u need... i do kno u dont need to change the suspention just the hubs and knucles and **** like that but not the shoks or springs....ill check from time to time cus im tryna do the same to my hatch

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=962850
i hope that helps sumwhat

 

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Buy a Type R

 

im doing it to my hatch right now 93 civic hb...make sure you don't get 90-93 integra e-brake cables there to long.

 

thats why you get 94-01 ebrake cable.. lol

 

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you will be increasing unsprung weight and limit your choice of wheels by 90%

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I believe your brake options are greater with five lug, also the stock type r 5 lug has larger rotors and calipers compared to just the gsr 4 lug setup.

 

well, if you already have the GSR setup on there now, I heard you can just swap the hubs, rotors and calipers. on the rear you need to change the lower control arms and change ITR suspension if you want to mimic the real setup.

 

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Huh?

English, please.

*shrug* If you want to do it, go right ahead - but for a street car its a waste of time and money. Get better pads, fluid and tires and your car will stop just fine.

 

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you will be increasing unsprung weight and limit your choice of wheels by 90%

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exactly. and if the car doesnt come with it, then dont bother getting it. a good set of brembo slotted rotors and a good set of pads will do the same

 

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thats clean and all the people that tll u not to do it are just jelous they cant affford it.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well i guess...but its also a waste of money concidering what you get. BLING?

like i said ^^^ a good set of brembo rotors and good pads will do the same.

could spend the money elseware...in the motor... where it matters.

 

wouldn't the "Hype R" braking system be better.... i mean bigger calipers..larger rotors....plus if you do the whole thing (trailing arms and suspension) wouldn't that improve the handling as well as the skid pad???? Seems to me Honda designed the R to be a "streetable" race car....so why not upgrade the lighter hatch with the best that Honda has to offer....yeah you add weight to the hatch but so does the "B-series" swap that everyone puts in.......so what im saying is if you power a hatch crap with the "R" power plant......why not stop it the same way???

if your really looking for the performance aspect.....go with the 96 JDM Type R 4 lug......it gives you the same braking performance minus one lug......and that means lighter.....

 

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go with the 96 JDM Type R 4 lug......it gives you the same braking performance minus one lug...... </TD></TR></TABLE>

How do you figure?

jOO be talkin out your ****

 

The JDM 96 R 4 lug uses the same brake caliper as the 5 lug us spec.....also uses the same size rotor.....however in a weight comparison it is lighter than the 5 lug.......poot out the ***. and really i think we are robbing this thread.....this doesnt have anything to do with the original question of "what he will actually need"....its all suggestion anyway.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Madspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wouldn't the "Hype R" braking system be better.... i mean bigger calipers..larger rotors....plus if you do the whole thing (trailing arms and suspension) wouldn't that improve the handling as well as the skid pad???? Seems to me Honda designed the R to be a "streetable" race car....so why not upgrade the lighter hatch with the best that Honda has to offer....yeah you add weight to the hatch but so does the "B-series" swap that everyone puts in.......so what im saying is if you power a hatch crap with the "R" power plant......why not stop it the same way???</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you're swapping the whole system, yes it's better.. but he's got a GSR already.. rotors and calipers are not the whole system.. upgrading his pads and fluid will be fine unless he's adding a ton of power or is building a track car.. when rebuilding my ITR, I considered using GSR components to give more wheel options.. I already had the 5 lug to put back on though, so I just kept it..

with all that said, he'll need: front hub knuckle assy, front calipers, and front rotors.. for the rear, hub assembly, calipers and rotors.. you might need the trailing arms too, but I can't remember at the moment.. the LCA has nothing to do with the brakes..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Madspeed &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The JDM 96 R 4 lug uses the same brake caliper as the 5 lug us spec.....also uses the same size rotor.....however in a weight comparison it is lighter thatn the 5 lug.......poot out the ***.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Oh boy.

Nope.

 

yes it is lighter

 

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So your tune kinda changed and you added this on afterwards.

The stock 96 spec JDM ITR brakes are the same as the stock Gen3 GSR brakes, calipers and rotors sans the different lug pattern 4x114.3. This would contribute to the weight difference But does Not outperform the Stock 97+ ITR brakes.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1GreyTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But does Not outperform the Stock 97+ ITR brakes.
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On track, this is going to be true. If you are building a track car and dont care about classing or any of that, if you retrofitted the brake system it would be a very nice upgrade, since GSR brakes are marginal at best.

Otherwise, waste of time and money - unless you are a blinger like BlueR.

 

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Otherwise, waste of time and money - unless you are a blinger like BlueR.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Marc is a richie.. he should change his name to "BlingR"..

i guess it's all relative to what you're trying to do, but GSR brakes on a basically stock GSR are not that bad.. especially if you upgrade the pads to something bling-tastic..

i would think an aftermarket brake kit would probably be cheaper and easier than switching it all to ITR..

 

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For track use?

If you use good fluid, very good pads, have good ducting, and can compress your brake zones all the way they are "not that bad" but if you are not constrained by any rules and can afford a fastbrakes kit, throw those ******* things in the trash.

 

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For track use?

If you use good fluid, very good pads, have good ducting, and can compress your brake zones all the way they are "not that bad" but if you are not constrained by any rules and can afford a fastbrakes kit, throw those ******* things in the trash.</TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed.. i was speaking more generally in saying they were "not that bad"..