How stupid am I? Let's vote on my stupidity.
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How stupid am I? Let's vote on my stupidity.
Here's what happened. After getting my EG back from the police impound lots of things were not working properly. Below is a list of the problems.
Sunroof did not open/close
Tail lights remained lit (had to remove fuse to turn off)
Turn signals did not work, although emergency lights did
Light switch did not function
Wipers remained on (had to remove fuse to turn off)
As you may have already notice, all of these problems are electrically inclined. After some success in lightly patching up the harness connected to my ECU and taking apart ALL of the wiring underneath my steering column and behind my cluster and fixing this as well, I have new found confidence in what I can do.
After taking apart my wireharness a couple of times and cleaning it up and organizing it more and more each time, I decide to attempt to trace the source of all of the above listed problems. So once again I decide to take my harness apart. This time, like every other time, I begin to work at this at night.
About 2 hours pass and I've taken everythign part and looked over all of the connections. Everything seems to be in order. By now it's 11 PM and decide it's best if I start putting everything back together. A few minutes later all this is accomplished and I am down to re-attaching the long metal plate that goes right under the steering column. As I am doing this, my light switch makes contact with with the metal plate and it sparks begins to spark.
By the time I pull the plate off and stop the contact, a lot of sparking had occurred. And guess what, my lights do not work now. Just my luck. Now, remember how I mentioned earlier that my light switch does not work, well I have my switch directly connected to one of my fuse box ports. And guess what, after this happened that port was without power.
Once again I decide to take everything apart again to inspect everything. After a couple of minutes, I have every off again. Everything seems to be in order so I start replugging all of the connections. I reattach the fuse box and only have one plug left and this is my brown ignition plug. I look around and do not see another brown connection that goes into this. All I find is a white, or was it blue, plug. Now I could have sworn I needed to have brown on brown so I look around a bit. After getting upside down and probing for a loose brown connection I am left without one. So I assume I'm on crack and plug the brown and white, or blue, connection.
As soon as these two connections are plugged in my car begins to crank, which totally diverts my attention from the fuse box to my ignition switch. My keys are not in the ignition and I trip out for a few seconds. All of a sudden I see some lighting, which turns out to be sparking, out of the corner of my eye and smell smoke. I look down and I have massive lighthing and sparking behind my
fuse box. I start sh!**!ng it because it seems as though I have an electrical fire. You would not believe the rush I had as I start to pull these to connections apart!
With danger no longer present I take everything apart to inspect the damaged caused. As I pull my fuse box down and then out, I notice the missing ignition connection plugged in to the back of my fuse box. There I have the missing connection, which explains what just happened. I try to ammend what just happened by plugging everything back in correctly. I do and try to access damage by turning on my ride.
As I turn the key, my car just sits there doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!! I knew I had to have blown out fuses all over the place and I begin to prove everything. A lot, probably most, of my fuse terminals have no power flow. However, this isn't my biggest concern. My biggest concern is that it's 1-2 in the morning, I'm at a carwash lot, and my car is not even turning over. By this point I am thinking
that it may be possible for me to have blown out my starter, distributor, ignition coil, ICM, and pretty much anything else related to my electrical. So like anyone else, my ***** are in my throat.
I sit down for a few minutes to clear my head and make sure I make reasonable assesments. After a few minutes of careful thinking, I begin to work on what I'd narrowed down. Voila! I get my car to go on. What relief as I now know it's not my starter, ICM, or ignition coil. The problem I now have is that it's night time and I have no lights, at all. LOL. so I begin to prove around and tap into some power. My car is on, my lights are on, and I am horribly tired. I decide it's time to go home and test out the rest of my theory in relation to what might be wrong at another time.
Anyways, the car is now fixed and everything is back to how it was. Well, how it was before this happened. I fixed everything the first time I tried which was 2 days later. So on a scale from 1-10, how stupid am I? 10 being the stupidest.
Now let's see how clever people here are. What do you think was the problem I encountered? After a few replies, I'll post the answer.
Sunroof did not open/close
Tail lights remained lit (had to remove fuse to turn off)
Turn signals did not work, although emergency lights did
Light switch did not function
Wipers remained on (had to remove fuse to turn off)
As you may have already notice, all of these problems are electrically inclined. After some success in lightly patching up the harness connected to my ECU and taking apart ALL of the wiring underneath my steering column and behind my cluster and fixing this as well, I have new found confidence in what I can do.
After taking apart my wireharness a couple of times and cleaning it up and organizing it more and more each time, I decide to attempt to trace the source of all of the above listed problems. So once again I decide to take my harness apart. This time, like every other time, I begin to work at this at night.
About 2 hours pass and I've taken everythign part and looked over all of the connections. Everything seems to be in order. By now it's 11 PM and decide it's best if I start putting everything back together. A few minutes later all this is accomplished and I am down to re-attaching the long metal plate that goes right under the steering column. As I am doing this, my light switch makes contact with with the metal plate and it sparks begins to spark.
By the time I pull the plate off and stop the contact, a lot of sparking had occurred. And guess what, my lights do not work now. Just my luck. Now, remember how I mentioned earlier that my light switch does not work, well I have my switch directly connected to one of my fuse box ports. And guess what, after this happened that port was without power.
Once again I decide to take everything apart again to inspect everything. After a couple of minutes, I have every off again. Everything seems to be in order so I start replugging all of the connections. I reattach the fuse box and only have one plug left and this is my brown ignition plug. I look around and do not see another brown connection that goes into this. All I find is a white, or was it blue, plug. Now I could have sworn I needed to have brown on brown so I look around a bit. After getting upside down and probing for a loose brown connection I am left without one. So I assume I'm on crack and plug the brown and white, or blue, connection.
As soon as these two connections are plugged in my car begins to crank, which totally diverts my attention from the fuse box to my ignition switch. My keys are not in the ignition and I trip out for a few seconds. All of a sudden I see some lighting, which turns out to be sparking, out of the corner of my eye and smell smoke. I look down and I have massive lighthing and sparking behind my
fuse box. I start sh!**!ng it because it seems as though I have an electrical fire. You would not believe the rush I had as I start to pull these to connections apart!
With danger no longer present I take everything apart to inspect the damaged caused. As I pull my fuse box down and then out, I notice the missing ignition connection plugged in to the back of my fuse box. There I have the missing connection, which explains what just happened. I try to ammend what just happened by plugging everything back in correctly. I do and try to access damage by turning on my ride.
As I turn the key, my car just sits there doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!! I knew I had to have blown out fuses all over the place and I begin to prove everything. A lot, probably most, of my fuse terminals have no power flow. However, this isn't my biggest concern. My biggest concern is that it's 1-2 in the morning, I'm at a carwash lot, and my car is not even turning over. By this point I am thinking
that it may be possible for me to have blown out my starter, distributor, ignition coil, ICM, and pretty much anything else related to my electrical. So like anyone else, my ***** are in my throat.
I sit down for a few minutes to clear my head and make sure I make reasonable assesments. After a few minutes of careful thinking, I begin to work on what I'd narrowed down. Voila! I get my car to go on. What relief as I now know it's not my starter, ICM, or ignition coil. The problem I now have is that it's night time and I have no lights, at all. LOL. so I begin to prove around and tap into some power. My car is on, my lights are on, and I am horribly tired. I decide it's time to go home and test out the rest of my theory in relation to what might be wrong at another time.
Anyways, the car is now fixed and everything is back to how it was. Well, how it was before this happened. I fixed everything the first time I tried which was 2 days later. So on a scale from 1-10, how stupid am I? 10 being the stupidest.
Now let's see how clever people here are. What do you think was the problem I encountered? After a few replies, I'll post the answer.
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Re: How stupid am I? Let's vote on my stupidity. (KNO3)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by KNO3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After getting my EG back from the police impound lots of things were not working properly.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16Drag »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">story too long did not read. please post cliffnotes version for the reading impaired. 
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I agrea let me know when the short version comes out, Kids today now all have Add
</TD></TR></TABLE>I agrea let me know when the short version comes out, Kids today now all have Add
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Re: (nocternaldragon)
It was more then likely a bad connection somewhere, Where im not sure not that interested or a blown fuse from a short propably the main one on the battery cause you jumped so many things out and shorted the hell out of your system.
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Re: How stupid am I? Let's vote on my stupidity. (murmur9)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by murmur9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not that stupid if you got it runing again...long *** story bro. lol </TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly. At least you got it working again!!
Exactly. At least you got it working again!!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16Drag »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">story too long did not read. please post cliffnotes version for the reading impaired. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i read the whole thing. i'm at work....bored dammit.
and yeah, whats the answer? and whats up with the part where you plug the brown into something else and the car starts cranking??
</TD></TR></TABLE>i read the whole thing. i'm at work....bored dammit.
and yeah, whats the answer? and whats up with the part where you plug the brown into something else and the car starts cranking??
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Re: (nocternaldragon)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nocternaldragon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agrea let me know when the short version comes out, Kids today now all have Add</TD></TR></TABLE>
hahahah yep, i'm ADD and i read the first line and saw how long that **** was and i said to myself "**** reading this"
hahahah yep, i'm ADD and i read the first line and saw how long that **** was and i said to myself "**** reading this"
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Re: (Built2Spill)
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would be just as interested in the answer, if I coulda read the whole thing
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Built2Spill »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Seems like a General Discussion and debate topic
pssshhh...what do i know.
</TD></TR></TABLE> this is true...
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i think peopel that cant take a few mintues and read are the stupidest...after all the best way to attain new knowledge starts with reading.
anyway i feel for you doing all that wiring. i jstu went through replacing a chassis harness and had a situation with a boiling battery...
anyway i feel for you doing all that wiring. i jstu went through replacing a chassis harness and had a situation with a boiling battery...
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no cliffnotes so i decided to read the dang post.
I'll do the cliff notes:
A guy at a carwash lot, who just recently got his car back from the impound. Messes around with some wirings, sparks fly and car is now dead. What is he going to do now since its late at night and hes at a carwash place? Messes around with more wirings. Couple hours later, he figures out what finally had happened and felt like an a$$ so now he wants us to figure out why he was an a$$...
I hope I did a good job. I left out all of the extrenous information that many of us got hopelessly lost in.
I'll do the cliff notes:
A guy at a carwash lot, who just recently got his car back from the impound. Messes around with some wirings, sparks fly and car is now dead. What is he going to do now since its late at night and hes at a carwash place? Messes around with more wirings. Couple hours later, he figures out what finally had happened and felt like an a$$ so now he wants us to figure out why he was an a$$...
I hope I did a good job. I left out all of the extrenous information that many of us got hopelessly lost in.
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i read all that **** for you to wait untill you tell us the answer?!?!?!?! LAME
My guess is that you had your battery still conneted. Before you do any electrical work, you should disconnect the battery.
and to finish off the cliffs, he wants us to guess how stupid he is. On a scale from one to ten.
Im guessing a 10 cause im pissed that i read that ******* thing and now i gotta wait for a ******* answer
My guess is that you had your battery still conneted. Before you do any electrical work, you should disconnect the battery.
and to finish off the cliffs, he wants us to guess how stupid he is. On a scale from one to ten.
Im guessing a 10 cause im pissed that i read that ******* thing and now i gotta wait for a ******* answer
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Re: How stupid am I? Let's vote on my stupidity. (KNO3)
Yes, yes....I did go offline. After I wrote this post and left work yesterday I did not come back online. Anyways, I forgot to mention a few things. My speedometer was not working, my temperature gauge was not working, my gas gauge was not working, my tach was not working, my fan was not working, back up lights not working, turn signals not working. The messed up thing is this was on top of everything that was already not working. LOL. Anyways, nocternaldragon's answer did apply to what I wrote but not what I forgot to mention. Care to take a guess?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nocternaldragon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It was more then likely a bad connection somewhere, Where im not sure not that interested or a blown fuse from a short propably the main one on the battery cause you jumped so many things out and shorted the hell out of your system.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nocternaldragon, you are right about the blown main fuse under the hood. Although, that was the easy diagnosis. I forgot to mention the above
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dinosa21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cables on the battery was crossed? </TD></TR></TABLE>
dinosa21, battery cables were not crossed. If I had done that, I need to get bitch slapped by everyone here.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nocternaldragon »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It was more then likely a bad connection somewhere, Where im not sure not that interested or a blown fuse from a short propably the main one on the battery cause you jumped so many things out and shorted the hell out of your system.</TD></TR></TABLE>
nocternaldragon, you are right about the blown main fuse under the hood. Although, that was the easy diagnosis. I forgot to mention the above
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dinosa21 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cables on the battery was crossed? </TD></TR></TABLE>
dinosa21, battery cables were not crossed. If I had done that, I need to get bitch slapped by everyone here.