well i was stuck on ls for a while and now people are telling me to go with a b16. which is better? advantages? disadvantages?

 

B16 vtec. thats all i have to say. well and if u want to hear more. easier swap i think, more potetial. and there r more but im tired so ya.

 

combine them and have Ls-Vtec then u get the qualitys of the ls and te v-tec of the b16

just do what u wanna do

 

which one would cost less cause im on a tight budget

 

My brother has an LS in his 91 HF. Bone Stock-----Full Skunk2 Exhaust, Intake. That is it. His car hit 14.6 in the 1320. That **** is shuper fast. LS will def. have more torque. HorsePower will of course be lower than the B16. But the LS has def. got the torque factor.

My brother's put down 133HP, 124TRQ. It is your decision. Do what you like.

*LS is Cheaper by the way*

 

check this website it will help http://www.hmotorsonline.com/shop/ good luck.

 

i too am also on a tight buget but i think im going to save for ls-vtec so that way i can get what i really want. im also thinking of just putting a B16 for now cuz i really want a motor.

 

IMO If you are tight on money, go for a turbo d16a.

 

Honestly the ls numbers are nice but the b16 thing is alot better to me and yes it does lack torque but the hp is there and you can rev that motor higher. But a ls is about three times cheaper. On the other hand if you like turbo then a b16 is far from being turbo friendly. Right now i am in a not flaming mood so from now on search first that way you get the facts instead of peoples opinion cause what i may feel is different then everyone else or even urself. good night.

 

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Iwould get the LS without a doubt. A more potential motor. B16 are torqueless . I Have seen an ls w/b16 tranny kill many b16 hatchs. The only why to go with a b16 is to boost it if you want real power. With an LS...you can boosted it, bore it to basically a b20, OR ls/vtec And of course how reliable is how much work is done to it. LS are a dime a dozen.

 

B16A.

ls block has no oil squirters.
ls block has no extra webbing for support compared to vtec block.
ls block not as reliable at high rpm compared to vtec block/cylinders crack.
ls block is heavier compared to B16A block.

 

i would go with the b16 its really fun for all motor, if u wanna go turbo than id the ls. it just depends on what you want to do in the future and how much are you willing to spend.

 

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ls block has no oil squirters.
ls block has no extra webbing for support compared to vtec block.
ls block not as reliable at high rpm compared to vtec block/cylinders crack.
ls block is heavier compared to B16A block.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, they weight about the same.
b16 have no torque and need to rev high to move it. Horsepower sells car...but torque move car .

Edit: BTw...i don't have an ls nor a b16. I had an ls but recently switch motor but definately not the b16.



Modified by ProJectCvic at 1:17 PM 8/13/2004

 

i know i've been thinking about the ls myself.....so i too want some info on this...thanks

 

I have an LS motor in my CRX, with a simple I/H/E, and cat-delete setup right now. Yet it is still really quick. I have 2 subs, and an amp in the back, and I keep up with my buddies CRX, and he has a B16, I/H/E, 6 puck clutch, VAFC. For the money the LS is the way to go. Plus on the money you save, that could go toward a turbo system. And LS's love the turbo.

 

ls with a ys1 gsr tranny and youll toast b16s.

i have a post with my first night at the track with my setupif you wanna check it out:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=956927

good luck

 

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Actually, they weight about the same.
b16 have no torque and need to rev high to move it. Horsepower sells car...but torque move car .

Edit: BTw...i don't have an ls nor a b16. I had an ls but recently switch motor but definately not the b16.



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LS &gt; B16 . LS/b16tranny will freaking rip b16 anyday

 

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don't copy this dude ego but read this thread....https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=920707

Good luck

 

Damn some of you fools are so mis-informed. They are both good engines but my heart belongs to the LS. The LS doesnt need oil squirters because they dont rev high. They dont rev high because tehy are based on tq...and they dont need to rev to 23230000rpms to make that tq. People bash the LS because it doesnt make the high HP numbers like the VTEC engines. But as stated before....Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races.

 

Here is my 0.02 in this matter.

I love old LS motors(with an "s") but now I have an B16 cause I wanted VTec. How I regret it, I love the way it used to pull. The torque is awesome in my CRX. However the B16 is not that bad at all, after I gotten used to it.

It save alot of gas compared to the LS. Whats even better is B16 on boost, that is some sick ****.

But if I had a choice I would have kept my LS if it wasn't for that stupid rod bearing, and the fact that my friend sold my motor without letting me know.

To have the best of both worlds I would do the LS/Vtec that is if you have money to spend cause it ain't gonna be cheap.

Best idea is to find someone that has the B16 and LS motor in the EF to get a feel, then you will make the right decision.

 

whats the big facination with horsepower? big rigs have thousands and they go slow, lol. oh well, go with the ls definately. tourqe is way more fun.

however, if your on a tight budget, have you thought of zc?

 

WHAT SHOULD I SEARCH FOR???????? I TRIED EVERYTHING AND IM STILL NOT GETTING ENOUGH INFO.

 

If your really this stressed out on which motor to get, the best solution is to find out which one your pocket can afford.

Which one you can get your hands on.

both motors are good so get what is available to you.

 

My brother has an LS in his 91 HF. Bone Stock-----Full Skunk2 Exhaust, Intake. That is it. His car hit 14.6 in the 1320. That **** is shuper fast. LS will def. have more torque. HorsePower will of course be lower than the B16. But the LS has def. got the torque factor.
My brother's put down 133HP, 124TRQ. It is your decision. Do what you like.

Your bothers motor is putting down some good numbers. If I could get those types of numbers, I would chose the LS.

 

My bone stock 1st Gen in a '90 STD ran 14.3 on street tires. Only upgrades are a K&N drop-in and a Thermal exhaust. It's all in what you want man.. opinions are like ********..