As you can see from my alignment specs the front camber and toe are good, however the rear toe, both sides are set at 0 but min. specs say they gotta be at least 0.06-0.13 so i'm off slightly no big deal right?? But my situation is my rear camber, the left rear looks ok cuz its inbetween the specs, but the right rear was in specs and after the alignment it isn't anymore, what can i do?? or should i even worry about it?? However one thing i have noticed is that when i'm driving, the car pulls to the left side a lil bit........i have no idea why but if somebody can help me, please lend me a hand, thanks

here let me give u specs

left front before after
min--spec---max(-1.00-1.00)
camber -0.31 0.02
min--spec---max(-0.09-0.09)
toe -1.64 0.00
min. max. specs are same for both sides
right front before after
camber -0.21 0.00
toe -1.53 0.00

left rear before after
min---spec---max(-1.66-0.34)
camber -1.58 -1.23
min--spec---max(0.06-0.13)
toe 0.11 0.00

right rear before after
camber -1.39 -2.05
toe 0.17 0.00

 

it seems like the alignment tech adj. something and it caused the camber on the right rear to be thrown off. I guess that happens sometimes.

It would make sense that your car pulls to the left with the alignment set as it is. Basically, you left tire has a bigger contact patch than your right, essentially causing your car to be heavier on the left side.

I'd go back the the place and see if they can get the camber to be even on both sides. If not, I think you'll have to get a camber kit????

 

You have adjustable camber kits I assume? For one thing straight up 0 camber is bad for handling. I would have it set to about -1.5 in front and -1.0 in back.

What is the thrust angle? What about the total toe front and rear?

 

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care to explain what those two things mean?

 

Thrust angle and total toe for the rear wheels are related.

For example if the rear tires do this / \ or this \ / then each tire will have a toe reading of not zero, and the total toe will also be not zero (toe from each side is added together).

However, if the rear tires do this / / or this \ \ then each tire will show a toe reading (one toe'd out, the other toe'd in), but the total toe will show up as zero or nearly zero. However there will be a thrust angle reading of not zero.

So basically thrust angle is the toe from each side subtracted from each other, while total toe is the toe from each side added together.

You can have a total toe reading of zero, but have a thrust angle reading, which would mean that the car would track down the road at an angle (like drifting, but only very slight). It may or may not cause the car to pull to one side, but it will definitly affect tire wear, especially on the rear tires.

 

i kinda understand, yes i heard -1.00 is a good setting for camber, however one thing i did for the rear camber trick, is i put 2 washers per bolt on the left rear side, but i put 3 per bolt ont he right side because of what someone on g2ic said i should do........hope this helps

 

it almost seems like when i turn the steering wheel the wheels themselves don't turn as much as they should, is this normal or am i just not use to driving on new wheels/tires being lowered??? i know i need to fix this ******* alignment but what specs should i have him shoot for??

 

ya, when i'm driving straight i have to turn the wheel slightly to the right to keep the wheels going straight, any buddy got any ideaS?

 

umm anybody with a g2teg could u post ur camber/toe specs?? someone plz help me cuz i dont' wanna screw up my tires.

 

when i make a 90 degree turn i have to turn the steering wheel like more than 360 degrees when normally any person would turn the steering wheel like what 90 degrees?/ what could this mean?? this could be my problem all together.....

 

This is probably a caster issue.

Do you have caster specs?

 

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What? You can make a 90 deg. turn by turning the steering wheel 90 or 360, doesn't matter, it just changes how tight the turn is.

 

right, but what made my car not make turns as tight??? i mean it was just weird thats why i asked........cuz normally on a 90 degree turn i wouldn't have to turn my steering wheel all the way around to make that turn, it just worried me.

 

caster specs read as follows:

min---spec---max (0.50 - 2.50)

left front before after right front before after
caster 1.66 1.66 1.54 1.54


total toe= 0.00 for both front and rear

camber difference for front is .02 and for the rear is .82

front caster difference is .12 and rear is N/A

thrust angle for the rear is 0.00 front is N/A

thats basically all the information i have

 

I dunno, looks fine to me, other than the fact that the left rear camber was less negative afterwards, but the right rear camber was more negative afterwards.

 

exactly, so should i just bring it back and have them fix the right rear camber?? and then i should be all set with that??


also what could be my problem with the steering......it seems when i make turns i have to turn the steering wheel much more than i have before, is this normal after lowering your car??

and last but not least, could my pulling be from switching to directional tires?? i'm thinkin it might but i notice sometimes i have to slightly turn the steering wheel right to keep going straight, any other clues?? u guys are helping, need a lil more advice

THANKS!

 

The steering ratio has not changed, the wheels still turn the same amount for the same amount the steering wheel is turned.

 

ok maybe i am just paranoid, i'll give those guys a call to have em fix my camber.........i'm having my brakes done today including a caliper cuz its sticking.