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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 07:04 AM
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I posted yesterday and didnt get much help, i guess it was because my post wasnt simple enough. But i need to know any information anyone has on the electric power steering on the euro R motor and getting it to work in the 5th gen, also does the 5th gen have the idle control valve problem.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 07:44 AM
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Being a 5th gen owner, i have never really notice any sort of idle problem other than if i pump the brakes like a mad man, i could probably get my car to stall.
so no worries with the IACV until you have a problem.

As for the electric steering, i would try to get ahold of a euro r manual or something that goes into detail about that specific system. Im sure there is some sort of control unit, and individual wiring. The swap you get comming with a wiring harness? This may have been easier if you just got a front clip.

I dont think youll find very many people who are experience with the Euro R swap and getting all the accessories to work. Good luck, and keep us updated.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 08:35 AM
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sorry u misunderstood not the idle problem on the car but theres a problem with the euro R idel control valve working with other cars and i was wondering if it worked with the 5th gen i know it dosnt with the 4th
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 09:10 AM
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the IAC on the euro R is different from the 5th gen. I've heard of people converting the wiring but you can also customize the manifold so you can put the 5th gen prelude one on there. Do a search for the euro R manifold.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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thank you alot, now does anyone know anything about the electric power steering
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 10:07 AM
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Your going to have to use the power steering system that is already on your lude. It will bolt right up to that Euro R motor. You'll just have to swap out the crank pully from your old motor and get a new belt to fit from autozone.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 10:31 AM
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Thanks do you know if the euro r ecu is goin to throw a code?
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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its quite possible. I dont think you are going to have the correct light for the ECU to turn on, and it seems like its not something the ECU would throw the car into limp mode over. I think youll be alright. How long until the swap is physically at your door ?
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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This comming wensday and somebody in my first post said it might throw a code i didnt see why it would but i thought it might be possible.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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you haven't seen the ecu yet. I bet you can't even plug it in, forget about the Electronic power steering......you would need an entire steering rack from a euro-r and lots of other stuff to make it work. not possible.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by satan_srv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you haven't seen the ecu yet. I bet you can't even plug it in, forget about the Electronic power steering......you would need an entire steering rack from a euro-r and lots of other stuff to make it work. not possible.</TD></TR></TABLE>

He's right, if yours comes with the same ecu that mine did then it will not work. You should be able to use your stock ECU, or convert to OBDI ECU. And another thing, you'll have to make a bracket or something to use your lude IAC valve. There is no way to make the 3 wire IAC that comes on the Euro R mani work with your computer.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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damn, this seems to be more of a pain than I would have thought. Keep everyone updated on what happens. This is the swap I want to do as well.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 04:37 AM
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Damn that sucks about the ECU, so teh 01 EUro R is obd1 thats kibnda odd isnt it or did they not have a mandotory switch in japan like we did over here.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 04:46 AM
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japanese OBD I = US OBD II

they're a little behind
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 07:35 AM
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ok sorry im a little confused so the euro R is OBD1, damn thats not what the guys at hmotors online said
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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no, you're right, it is OBD II in the sense that the country it came from says it is OBD II, but electronically, japanese OBD II is the equivalen of US OBD I.

and good luck on getting the accessories to work. i don't think you will need the power steering, but if you can get it to work, more power to you.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NCPreludeDriver &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok sorry im a little confused so the euro R is OBD1, damn thats not what the guys at hmotors online said</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, its OBDI in japan and OBDII in the US.
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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since when were 96+ cars in japan not obdii? The wiring for the cars and ecus is like the OBDII models here is it not? 96+ jdm ecus plug into 96+ USDM cars right?

We're not really talking about emissions here, just wiring...
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Old Aug 14, 2004 | 06:45 AM
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the wiring may be OBD II style, but the sensors are in teh same spot as they would be on an OBD I motor.

and yes, the wiring plugs in, but the signals just don't jive right. mine never ran really strong until i did the full switch over to USDM OBD II.
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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Ok, I have a question as I am planning to get this motor, but just want to get somethings that are misunderstood out of the way. First I have 95 Si, therefore no VTEC and I would have to wire up the selenoid and so forth. But now some people are saying the Euro R has a electronic power steering? This seems like a mess, and couldn't I run without the PS. Besides that would it just be a straight drop in or is there more modifications I don't know about?
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 09:12 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h22mark &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, I have a question as I am planning to get this motor, but just want to get somethings that are misunderstood out of the way. First I have 95 Si, therefore no VTEC and I would have to wire up the selenoid and so forth. But now some people are saying the Euro R has a electronic power steering? This seems like a mess, and couldn't I run without the PS. Besides that would it just be a straight drop in or is there more modifications I don't know about?</TD></TR></TABLE>

you're missing it...you just use a p13 and mechanical power steering... you just can't use a euro-r ecu that's all..
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Old Sep 7, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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Alright thanks sounds good.
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Old Dec 10, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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You can run the Euro R ecu...with out any problems..the EPS will not throw a code..I have a 99si with a Euro R and runs fine...you just got to deal with the wiring for the Idle control valve...Ask @ries
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 06:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can run the Euro R ecu...with out any problems..the EPS will not throw a code..I have a 99si with a Euro R and runs fine...you just got to deal with the wiring for the Idle control valve...Ask @ries</TD></TR></TABLE>

The Euro R ecu will actually throw a code for the EPS because EPS is a part of the on-start up diagnostics sequence, like SRS, and ABS. But since most people with Euro R swaps are not using a Euro R cluster they need not to worry.
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Old Dec 22, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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hmmm.. thats odd. we've done a few swaps here using the Euro-R ecu and no cel's for the eps.
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