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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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alright pads have good life left, brakes have been bled, and new rotors went on today. however, i don't have a very tight pedal feel. its loose and spongy. do you think it could be the old brake lines of the 91 hatch? what is your suggestions on getting my brakes to be back in good working order?? i'm thinking about buying new brake lines (stainless steel aftermarket ones?).
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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bleed them again and check all hoses for leaks...get a 15/16" mc
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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I would try getting new cylinder for your drums in the back and then maybe ge some satinless lines. Make sure you have bleed the brakes real good cause any air will make it squisy.
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 02:18 PM
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new master cylinder......i used a DA integra m/c. i can out brake cop cars :x
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 02:37 PM
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how much is a DA MC?? and is there much fabrication needed to make it fit?
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 03:01 PM
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No need to go with the 15/16" unless you added larger brakes in the front or added disc to the rear.
Even if you did change out the master cylinder, you would still have the spongy feeling.


You could get a master cylinder brace and/or a set of steel braided lines.
That will take out the sloppy feel of the pedal.

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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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i used the MC out of a 88-89 prelude.... it is a 15/16" and bolts right on.... just got to bend one brake line up just a little to fit it.... works great and no need to replace the booster this way unlike the teg unit....
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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i have gsr in front with std setup

it works great just make sure you bleed it correctly

didn't change anything have no problems with locking up
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by riceisnicenv &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alright pads have good life left, brakes have been bled...</TD></TR></TABLE>

You didn't happen to press the brake pedal all the way down to the floor when you bled the brakes did you?

Under everyday use you only pres the brake down about halfway...this only moves the piston halfway in the MC and there becomes buildup at the end. If you go to bleed the brakes and bottom out the pedal your pushing that piston and it's seal into unknown terratory and could tear it causing a leak.

Vince
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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i did push the brake to the floor while bleeding the brakes... however, the brakes are doing the same thing now as they were before bleeding the brakes. the brakes won't really pump up firm either. when i pump the brakes it makes a hissing sound. the mc is starting to really sound like the culprit. replace it?
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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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when i said cylinder i meant the drum cylinders. The 90-91 EX Master cylinder is direct fit and you dont have to bend brake lines.

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Old Aug 11, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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If your brakes are that soft, SS lines isn't going to fix that. You would actually have to have a leak for that to make a difference.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 06:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by travis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If your brakes are that soft, SS lines isn't going to fix that. You would actually have to have a leak for that to make a difference. </TD></TR></TABLE>

so what would your suggestiong be travis?? do you think a new master cylinder will fix the problem?
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 07:51 AM
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So does the pedal it feel spongy or are is the system not braking properly?

I'm not understanding if you just don't like the way you feel the slop of things flexing in the brake system or if there is something wrong with the braking system.

If you think there is something wrong with the system and you have a manual, then troubleshoot it.

Generally when a master cylinder begins to fail you can press and hold the brake pedal down with the car running and then the pedal will slowly drop all the way to the floor. Advanced stages of master cylinder failure requies the driver to pump the brakes to build up pressure in the system AND the pedal drops to the floor.
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Old Aug 12, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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the pedal feels spongy AND the system isn't braking properly. also, if i ride my brakes with medium tension down a hill for a mile or so smoke pours out from the wheel wells. i'm assuming its the finish from the new rotors burning off but i'm worried about that too. i'm sick of not being able to stop well!!!
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Old Aug 13, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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better get this figured out before we go to the track on the 20th
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