Possible Buyer For S2K: HELP
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Possible Buyer For S2K: HELP
Ok, mods please dont lock this, i have searched all over and read many forums and gained much info on this. Just want to ask a quick question.
I am in the market for a S2000. I have been doing research and from what I read, the car sort of scares me away. It seems like it is EXTREMELY fragile, trans, differential, clutch, shifting gears, even some motor problems.
I have been reading so many bad things that it is scaring me away.
My question is to the owners and everday drivers. Is this car really as big of a pain and expense on fixing broken stuff as it seems??
THANKS>......
I am in the market for a S2000. I have been doing research and from what I read, the car sort of scares me away. It seems like it is EXTREMELY fragile, trans, differential, clutch, shifting gears, even some motor problems.
I have been reading so many bad things that it is scaring me away.
My question is to the owners and everday drivers. Is this car really as big of a pain and expense on fixing broken stuff as it seems??
THANKS>......
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Re: Possible Buyer For S2K: HELP (hatch4raceb16)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatch4raceb16 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, mods please dont lock this, i have searched all over and read many forums and gained much info on this. Just want to ask a quick question.
I am in the market for a S2000. I have been doing research and from what I read, the car sort of scares me away. It seems like it is EXTREMELY fragile, trans, differential, clutch, shifting gears, even some motor problems.
I have been reading so many bad things that it is scaring me away.
My question is to the owners and everday drivers. Is this car really as big of a pain and expense on fixing broken stuff as it seems??
THANKS>...... </TD></TR></TABLE>
the car isn't fragile. Like other cars out there, if you abuse it, it will break. There are far more fragile cars out there that have no room for abuse. As far as I have seen, the s2000 engine is near bulletproof, taking all sorts of abuse as long as neglect isn't thrown into the mix, making sure fluid levels are proper and maintenance is performed.
I am in the market for a S2000. I have been doing research and from what I read, the car sort of scares me away. It seems like it is EXTREMELY fragile, trans, differential, clutch, shifting gears, even some motor problems.
I have been reading so many bad things that it is scaring me away.
My question is to the owners and everday drivers. Is this car really as big of a pain and expense on fixing broken stuff as it seems??
THANKS>......
</TD></TR></TABLE>the car isn't fragile. Like other cars out there, if you abuse it, it will break. There are far more fragile cars out there that have no room for abuse. As far as I have seen, the s2000 engine is near bulletproof, taking all sorts of abuse as long as neglect isn't thrown into the mix, making sure fluid levels are proper and maintenance is performed.
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Re: Possible Buyer For S2K: HELP (vapor)
I find the motor very durable. I've mis shifted a few times and been pretty scared, but the dealer checked it out, and I'm fine. These were missing 4th and going into second too. If it were fragile, my engine would have been toast.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blacks2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just dont dump the clutch and its fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you do dump it, make sure the wheels spin atleast. If you don't dump it at a high enough rpm and the wheels don't spin then something has to go, most likely it will be the differential. I saw a sc'd s2k do a sick burnout\launch at my work yesterday and then chirped his tires in gears 1,2, and 3.
If you do dump it, make sure the wheels spin atleast. If you don't dump it at a high enough rpm and the wheels don't spin then something has to go, most likely it will be the differential. I saw a sc'd s2k do a sick burnout\launch at my work yesterday and then chirped his tires in gears 1,2, and 3.
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Maintenance and common sense = many many miles of driving enjoyment.
You are making a conclusion of very narrow data. You are looking at isolated cases (internet BB) and applying this to the car as a whole. If you want actual data that accurately portrays the cars reliability, look it up in a consumer reports magazine.
You are making a conclusion of very narrow data. You are looking at isolated cases (internet BB) and applying this to the car as a whole. If you want actual data that accurately portrays the cars reliability, look it up in a consumer reports magazine.
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People are always going to harp on the things that go wrong. Dont forget that the people complaining are only 1% of the population. People who love their perfect car dont tend to post much saying how happy they are but people who are annoyed by something will go to the ends of the earth to be heard.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b00stn »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maintenance and common sense = many many miles of driving enjoyment.
You are making a conclusion of very narrow data. You are looking at isolated cases (internet BB) and applying this to the car as a whole. If you want actual data that accurately portrays the cars reliability, look it up in a consumer reports magazine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ahh, thank you
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ImportSport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">People are always going to harp on the things that go wrong. Dont forget that the people complaining are only 1% of the population. People who love their perfect car dont tend to post much saying how happy they are but people who are annoyed by something will go to the ends of the earth to be heard. </TD></TR></TABLE>
again on the nail.
Glad to hear some good information and knowledge and common sense.
You are making a conclusion of very narrow data. You are looking at isolated cases (internet BB) and applying this to the car as a whole. If you want actual data that accurately portrays the cars reliability, look it up in a consumer reports magazine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
ahh, thank you
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ImportSport »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">People are always going to harp on the things that go wrong. Dont forget that the people complaining are only 1% of the population. People who love their perfect car dont tend to post much saying how happy they are but people who are annoyed by something will go to the ends of the earth to be heard. </TD></TR></TABLE>
again on the nail.
Glad to hear some good information and knowledge and common sense.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECorona »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you do dump it, make sure the wheels spin atleast. If you don't dump it at a high enough rpm and the wheels don't spin then something has to go, most likely it will be the differential. I saw a sc'd s2k do a sick burnout\launch at my work yesterday and then chirped his tires in gears 1,2, and 3.</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually, it's not really that simple. To prevent damage, the powertrain needs to be preloaded and that is acheived through the clutch. When you start launching with wider stickier tires, you'll start to have trouble spinning the tires. FYI, the stock s02's are one of the stickiest summer performance tires you can find.
The diff, specifically the pinion or ring gear shearing is due to shock, from people trying to spin their wheels by sidestepping the clutch or trying to shift like mario andretti. Speed shifts aren't necessary, neither is power shifting. I don't know what they are called now-a-days but if you don't want your tranny to last, it's a good form of early transmission failure practice.
I speculate Honda made the clutch in the s2000 weak for reason, it's the weakest point in the powertrain and to slip the clutch and get that nasty burned clutch smell is far better than breaking other things down the line.
If you do dump it, make sure the wheels spin atleast. If you don't dump it at a high enough rpm and the wheels don't spin then something has to go, most likely it will be the differential. I saw a sc'd s2k do a sick burnout\launch at my work yesterday and then chirped his tires in gears 1,2, and 3.</TD></TR></TABLE>
actually, it's not really that simple. To prevent damage, the powertrain needs to be preloaded and that is acheived through the clutch. When you start launching with wider stickier tires, you'll start to have trouble spinning the tires. FYI, the stock s02's are one of the stickiest summer performance tires you can find.
The diff, specifically the pinion or ring gear shearing is due to shock, from people trying to spin their wheels by sidestepping the clutch or trying to shift like mario andretti. Speed shifts aren't necessary, neither is power shifting. I don't know what they are called now-a-days but if you don't want your tranny to last, it's a good form of early transmission failure practice.
I speculate Honda made the clutch in the s2000 weak for reason, it's the weakest point in the powertrain and to slip the clutch and get that nasty burned clutch smell is far better than breaking other things down the line.
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Re: (Hypersonik)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vapor »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
actually, it's not really that simple. To prevent damage, the powertrain needs to be preloaded and that is acheived through the clutch. When you start launching with wider stickier tires, you'll start to have trouble spinning the tires. FYI, the stock s02's are one of the stickiest summer performance tires you can find.
The diff, specifically the pinion or ring gear shearing is due to shock, from people trying to spin their wheels by sidestepping the clutch or trying to shift like mario andretti. Speed shifts aren't necessary, neither is power shifting. I don't know what they are called now-a-days but if you don't want your tranny to last, it's a good form of early transmission failure practice.
I speculate Honda made the clutch in the s2000 weak for reason, it's the weakest point in the powertrain and to slip the clutch and get that nasty burned clutch smell is far better than breaking other things down the line. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Pretty much what I meant but I didn't get technical. Basically make sure the wheels spin so the diff isn't taking the punch.
comptech makes a reinforced diff but it costs mucho dinero
actually, it's not really that simple. To prevent damage, the powertrain needs to be preloaded and that is acheived through the clutch. When you start launching with wider stickier tires, you'll start to have trouble spinning the tires. FYI, the stock s02's are one of the stickiest summer performance tires you can find.
The diff, specifically the pinion or ring gear shearing is due to shock, from people trying to spin their wheels by sidestepping the clutch or trying to shift like mario andretti. Speed shifts aren't necessary, neither is power shifting. I don't know what they are called now-a-days but if you don't want your tranny to last, it's a good form of early transmission failure practice.
I speculate Honda made the clutch in the s2000 weak for reason, it's the weakest point in the powertrain and to slip the clutch and get that nasty burned clutch smell is far better than breaking other things down the line. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Pretty much what I meant but I didn't get technical. Basically make sure the wheels spin so the diff isn't taking the punch.
comptech makes a reinforced diff but it costs mucho dinero
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Re: (VTECorona)
Let's see... Problems I have had so far:
Driver's side window regulator faulty - replaced under warranty.
Umm...
Uhh...
urr....
2001 with 23k miles so far.
Raced. Abused. Driven. No problems yet.
Missing 2nd or 4th is nothing, try going into 2nd when you meant to drop into fourth.
OUCH.
Hehehe.
Driver's side window regulator faulty - replaced under warranty.
Umm...
Uhh...
urr....
2001 with 23k miles so far.
Raced. Abused. Driven. No problems yet.
Missing 2nd or 4th is nothing, try going into 2nd when you meant to drop into fourth.
OUCH.
Hehehe.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hypersonik »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Surely there is a company that can reinforce/shot peen the diff casing for minimal outlay?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The design is flawed, not the materials the case is made out of, a viable solution for a bulletproof setup would be a diff transplant of the domestic variety. But then you'll be chasing the next weak point for abusive driving.
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comptech makes a reinforced diff but it costs mucho dinero</TD></TR></TABLE>
the reinfoced diff housing=bearing caps. That's all there's to it and I'm not so sure it improves the design to justify the cost.
The design is flawed, not the materials the case is made out of, a viable solution for a bulletproof setup would be a diff transplant of the domestic variety. But then you'll be chasing the next weak point for abusive driving.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECorona »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
comptech makes a reinforced diff but it costs mucho dinero</TD></TR></TABLE>
the reinfoced diff housing=bearing caps. That's all there's to it and I'm not so sure it improves the design to justify the cost.
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