lets say i'm boosting 12lbs with turbo or supercharger on a fully built engine:

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low colmpression 9:1 pistons rods valves..etc...
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what would be an average torque difference and would i be shitting all over srt-4's and those little blue subaru demons....

i got raped today by a wrx and i need to boost my self esteem....i hate eing tried by these little monsters. it makes me wanna get rid of my rims front lip side skirts ..just so the wont notice me...lololol j/k

 

Well unless you have a custome s/c you won't be running 12lbs on a s/c and especially not on an f22 which does not have a s/c offered. Just turbo and buy another long block and have it built for F/I and then put it in when it is done.

 

thats what im a doin'

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=953182

bryan runs 10psi...with 14, you'll have much greater chance to walk those guys...
but...awd...damn that's hard to beat...


as for s/c vs. turbo questions...it's been beaten to death over and over...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=688120

 

well awd is hard to beat off the hole but you can probably catch him if hp gains are greater wouldn't you think...remember im talking accord fi vs. wrx stock

 

i've never driven an accord turbo and i just want to get a general idea of what kind of damage i'm going to cause and how many dissapointed opponents i'm going to own

 

oh and by the way...i've seen a 91' coupe with a s/c

 

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Really well **** I guess If you would read my statement a little better you would know that I am not surprised. I have only seen a handful of accords that are supercharged and that is because first they have to have an h22 swapped in and then they have to move the firewall back like 5 inches. So you can see why it is not something that a lot of people do. Oh and if you don't have proof or don't know what kind of blower it was then I don't believe you and I should say that you don't need to challenge me in a debate because I will win.

 

lol and everyone yelled at me when i tried to compare the accord to the wrx

 

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You know you can edit your posts so you don't have three in a row rambling about whether a accord F/I would beat a WRX stock which is already turbo and awd.

 

here's ur answer.......click on the link, then go check them clips out.

 

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not if you can't get off the line, that's why rexs can own so many cars. if you notice the 1/4 miles times are fast, but trap speeds are low for rexs.

 

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Yeah we're talking about a 2wd F/I Accord v. a stock awd and already F/I wrx. Plus there aren't a lot of wrx's out there that are gonna be racing without any mods at all.

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i just want to get a general idea of what kind of damage i'm going to cause and how many dissapointed opponents i'm going to own</TD></TR></TABLE>


Okay, sure buddy. You're gonna need some serious coin and a helluva lot more knowledge before that happens. Better sell those rims and body kit

 

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as for s/c vs. turbo questions...it's been beaten to death over and over...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=688120</TD></TR></TABLE>

very nice link

 

I am wondering why people s/c honda or any 4 cyl forthat matter. A 4 cyl engine is really not ment to be supercharged, it is real like taking power from the engine to make power . I would just strengthing up the insides of the engine and boost the hell out of it. All in all like stated above you will be able to take alot more cars but a wrx being 4 wheel drive idon't see it happening unless on a highway racing a mile. and maybe not even then, it is to light for one and the power. just look at it when it accelerates, the car actually squats and launches. My honest opinion is that on a quater mile maybe with 12 lbs of boost you can do it but like i said your car is going to have to be tuned perfectly. JMO

 

you can still boost the hell out of it with a supercharger...its just a different method of getting there. you are going to get better low end with a supercharger cause the boost is always there, but the top end is better with a turbo....it all depends on where you want the power

 

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You know you can edit your posts so you don't have three in a row rambling about whether a accord F/I would beat a WRX stock which is already turbo and awd. </TD></TR></TABLE>

damn..quick to bite...look anything is possible and if you dont have the right idea or have no idea on how to help out someone looking for answers..then just shut your lip and exit the thread...iam sure that you can prepare any accord (engine and suspension wise) so it can be able to pull on a rex...and no i'm not being delirious &lt;--(i think thats how you spell it)...i've given it some thought and i've been in a rex before so i know its possible..... i know that s/c dont have better top end than turbo...but how fast are you planning to go...i mean you can dissapoint a rex owner if you pull out on him as long as you are not on the highway..... anyone have any positive comments...or suggestion?

 

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the rex is not light..3085lbs for a 4 door 5sp.

i don't think too many people SC 4 bangers here since they don't make a SC for the accord. i agree though turbo is what is best for a honda. hell too much trq is worthless on a fwd it will just make it harder to launch.

in order to beat a rex you would need a decent luanch and some wicked top end to catch up. the problem is a stock wrx is probably not up for a race which means your probably racing someone that is modded and knows how to launch.

 

how can you compare a rex vs an accord. They are different beasts. Besides being a sedan and having four cylinder that is all the have in common. Turbo you car if you want to be able to keep up with rex's. As for supercharger, unless you want spend lots of money on custom setup.

 

[QUOTE=kattiflis]how can you compare a rex vs an accord. They are different beasts. QUOTE]

because many accord owners wish they had one and many ex-honda owners are now wrx owners.

 

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because many accord owners wish they had one and many ex-honda owners are now wrx owners.

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i mean the whole point in owning a honda and spending ridiculous amounts of money is to be able to suup your ride enough to be able to hang with those that under estimate you....example---&gt; Mr. WRX

i think it could be done without blowing up your wallet

ps...if you guys cant tell already...i wanna place a bomb on a WRX one day...

 

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i mean the whole point in owning a honda and spending ridiculous amounts of money is to be able to suup your ride enough to be able to hang with those that under estimate you....example---&gt; Mr. WRX

believe it or not most people that mod honda's are not thinking that

i think it could be done without blowing up your wallet

So you are saying it won't take ridiculous amounts of money???? You just said that in the same post.

ps...if you guys cant tell already...i wanna place a bomb on a WRX one day...

If you want to beat a WRX so bad then shut up about the S/C and just build your motor and turbo it. But then you will still be having trouble with modded WRX's .
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Ok now Before you shoot your mouth off here on things you don't know about you should look who you are talking to. I know what I am talking about in here and you should just shut up and learn instead of being a smart *** after someone answers the question.

 

here's my suggestion:

turbo with big turbo. you'll never beat wrx off the line, that's given. what you need is top end power to overtake it in 3rd gear. i suggest turbo setup with 60-1 or gt35r or sc61c running about 14 lbs. of course, you can choose to get pistons/rods/headstuds. but a proper engine management will be a must should you boost more than 10 psi. i can give you a rough number as far as price is concerned: $4000 minimum.

 

hell with proper engine management, pistons, rods, big new juicy turbo, etc. I think your $4k estimate is low....

 

$4000 MINIMUM

drag4 kit = 2700
ems = ~900ish (i got mine for 835 shipped)
wideband = 320

drag comes with decent turbo, with 14psi, he might have a chance. but with bigger turbo:

sell drag turbonetic drag turbo on ebay = - 300-400ish
new big turbo = 750


but from what he's been posting, i don't think he's the type to tune by himself. if not, add $1000 for tuning.

ok, that's $5000 minimum.