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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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Got it started today!

However, when it's started, it instantly revs to about 4,500rpms and sounds like it's rev limiting. I never let it stay on for more than like 3-4 seconds cause it revs high and fast and yeah, don't wanna leave it on.

I know I don't have the vacuum lines teed properly cause I just wanted to get it started....which is likely an issue. But the accelerator isn't sticking and it doesn't look like something is wrong or too tight with the throttle cable. Could the vacuum lines really be doing that?

The ECU is also not pinned with the 4 wires from the B16 yet. If that info helps.

I can't think of any other info yet.. Any help is greatly appreciated.
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 09:53 PM
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Also, I checked the ECU pinout on Hybrid Garage and the VTEC Pressure wire goes into B05 right? But there is already a wire there? What is that wire, what do I do?

I have an 88 CRX Si with a B16A w\J1 tranny from an Integra XSi.
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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you must have some major air leaks..check to see if the throttle plate is stuck open
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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Thanks, if it's not that, what else should I check besides the vaccuum line teeing?
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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get done hooking everything up properly then see whats wrong..sounds like your not even done yet
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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Yeah, the vacuum line diagram is difficult to read..and I can't find the f*in dashpot?? The diagram won't print out larger or else it's not all on the page... I'll figure that out tomorrow and check the plates while I'm at it.
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Old Aug 6, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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I doubt you forgot this but if the hose from your brake booster to the intake manifold isn't hooked up then it will cause your car to rev high.


Modified by soulstream at 1:31 AM 8/7/2004
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 05:12 AM
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Yeah I got that on there, thanks.


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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 07:33 AM
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Pull your intake pipe off and see if your throttle plate is closing all the way. Carb cleaner will help to de-gum it if it is stuck open.
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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the problem is obvious YOUR WIRING IS FUCKED UP, i am guessing you used the wrong distributor, hell you even mentioned that the car is not wired properly, so get off your ***, wire it properly then report back
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 10:34 AM
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The distributor is the correct one for that motor.

Fixed the problem, throttle cable was tightened too much, so the throttle plate was just a hair open even when you are off the accelerator.
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Old Aug 7, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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Alright, can anyone else think of anything I should check before I drive it?
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Old Aug 8, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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A few questions...

Is a little slack in the alternator belt bad? Still spins, but I am wondering if I should adjust the alternator to make greater tension.

Lower ball joint on the driver side... The stud starts spinning with the nut after the nut threads a little, anyway I can circumvent this problem to buy myself some time until I can afford new parts. Also, exactly what parts would I need to replace it?
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 05:55 AM
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I´m doing the same swap, anyone have pics off where too hookup the 4 extra wires, i know where to hook up on the ecu, but have no idea on the motor.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 08:37 AM
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http://www.geocities.com/droppedcrxsi/vacuum1.htm

Heres a nice vac diagram.
Get a screwdriver, and pry the alt a bit, and tighten the bolt up. Get it in factory tension.
Ryan

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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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just get the lower ball joint and replace it, its only $50 for a good one.

as for those 4 wires..
2nd 02 sensor
vtec solenoid
knock sensor
and I can't remember the last one.. also if you purchased the hasport subharness there is a ground, just put it somewhere on the block.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 12:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vitrox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just get the lower ball joint and replace it, its only $50 for a good one.

as for those 4 wires..
2nd 02 sensor
vtec solenoid
knock sensor
and I can't remember the last one.. also if you purchased the hasport subharness there is a ground, just put it somewhere on the block.</TD></TR></TABLE>

vtec oil pressure
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 12:13 PM
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good info, i got my swap comin up soon
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 09:55 PM
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Everyone read DroppedCRXSi's website! I've had three sets of his instructions and parts list printed out and sitting in my garage for the last couple of months guiding me through the swap. He's the man! Thanks dude.

When you read the directions he set up, and read through random parts of HT, it says REMOVE THE KNUCKLE SPACER. DO IT! I've been having so many axle problems during this swap and I finally remembered seeing that in the instructions and I went and did it today on the knuckle that was giving me problems and it's great now! Was bad enough that it pulled the cv OUT of the cv housing that goes into the intermediate shaft. REMOVE THE KNUCKLE SPACERS! ( I haven't removed the one on the other side..but that axles never gave me ****..hm.. will do it tomorrow morning )

My question about the knuckle spacers is as follows. DroppedCRXSi's instructions say remove the knuckle spacers and dust shields. I popped off a rim that was sitting on the inside of the knuckle, I'm guessing that that was the knuckle spacer, but where's the dust shield? Is it two names for one part? Cause I see what looks like a black gasket on the inside of the knuckle..but it doesn't look like it's something I should pull out. The issues went away when I pulled that rim out that just pops off, so I guess it's just two names for one part.. Ryan??
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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knuckle spacer?..if you get the correct parts then you shouldnt have to remove anything and about the ball joint spinning,thats normal dood it just needs pressure on it,i used a jack to support the lower arm then jacked it up until the ball joint wouldnt spin anymore,but there may be another way...good luck with your project
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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Spaceman,
I found that other way to do it today. I decided to drive it today to see if there any issues that I could not find. Found one rolling out in the driveway from the garage. The lower arm popped the castle nut off of the lower ball joint stud and the lower arm fell, the front end of the drivers side dropped and the arm scrapped the inside of my rim a little bit. So I jacked the car up from the side and I guess the weight of the wheel holding down the knuckle stopped the stud from spinning cause I had a lot of torque on it and it won't move. Hehe...live and learn kids.

Oh about the knuckle spacers. I believe they have something to do with the length of the axles. I have the XSi B16 so the intermediate is from an Integra. I think the axles are just a hair longer so pulling the knuckle spacer really makes a difference. I can only say that because it did for me. Just take a flat bladed screw driver or an ice pick, get a little grip on it and it'll pop out.
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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oh alright well if it works then good job bro..how do you like it? make sure everything is good to go before you drive hard,check everything from suspension,wires,motor...k have fun dood
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 10:28 PM
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There is the knuckle spacer on the steering knuckle, and there is the dust seal on the outer edge of the integra axle, remove them both. My wheel wouldnt even move with the dust seal on, and the knuckle spacer removed. I would remove them both.

The dust seal is on the outer edge of the axle, its hard to see that its even there, but it needs to be pryed off.

Glad I could help ya bro
Ryan
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Old Aug 9, 2004 | 10:33 PM
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Thanks man, appreciate the support. This is actually a huge learning experience for me. I get a lot of second hand info from web forums and just reading magazines and articles. I know some ****, but I never really get to do anything. So this is a MASSIVE learning experience for me. Lot's of good info to be had from diving into something you have no idea about. Just read some instructions and use some common sense so you don't really brake a lot of **** if anyone on here ever wants to give this **** a try.
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